# Logical Reasoning - Statement and Assumption - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Statement and Assumption - Section 3 (Q.No. 41)
Directions to Solve

In each question below is given a statement followed by two assumptions numbered I and II. You have to consider the statement and the following assumptions and decide which of the assumptions is implicit in the statement.

• (A) If only assumption I is implicit
• (B) If only assumption II is implicit
• (C) If either I or II is implicit
• (D) If neither I nor II is implicit
• (E) If both I and II are implicit.

41.

Statement: The 'M' Cooperative Housing Society has put up a notice at its gate those sales persons are not allowed inside the society.

Assumptions:

1. All the sales persons will stay away from the 'M' Cooperative Housing Society.
2. The security guard posted at the gate may be able to stop the sales persons entering the society.

Only assumption I is implicit
Only assumption II is implicit
Either I or II is implicit
Neither I nor II is implicit
Both I and II are implicit
Explanation:
Since both the assumptions follow from the given statement, so both I and II are implicit.
Discussion:
43 comments Page 1 of 5.

Kevin said:   3 years ago
The use of "implicit" I'm seeing in this test seems unnatural to me. Statement: M corporation has put up a sign on its fence. Implicit assumption: There is a corporation called M corporation. They own a fence. They have an owner or employee or subcontractor to put up a sign on it. They are on a planet that has gravity.

Inferences: They need some way to hold the sign up on the fence, or it will fall down. But this test is calling that an "implicit assumption" I think. The explanation might say "It follows that they would have some way to hold the sign on the fence".

So maybe the question is referring to inferences the listener might make without quibbling or rejecting the statement, rather than assumptions that must be necessary in order for the statement to be meaningful (which I would naturally conceive of as "implicit assumptions".)

So if I want the job I shall have to adjust my concept of "implicit assumptions" for this kind of exercise. It seems to be a test to hire underlings, not to hire managers or someone to be in control.

Christian Nielsen said:   5 years ago
A sign posted does not follow that the sales people will stay away, only that they are kept from entering. There are also no assurances that a security guard could keep them away.

Ankit kothari said:   5 years ago
But the statement does not talk about the security guard so how does the statement 2 follows?

Souvik said:   5 years ago
I think the answer should've been 'D' (none) as there is a list for some specific salesman, not all. But the answer is stating "all".

Yashasvi Singhal said:   6 years ago
A notice is not at all a guarantee for debarring all the salespersons, so I does not follow at all.

Shubham said:   6 years ago
I think, it will be easy for a security guard posted at gate to convince the salespersons to not to enterb the gate by showing them the board. Therefore both assumptions are implicit.

Divya said:   6 years ago
The statement involves those salesmen and not all salesman indicating only particular salesmen are not allowed but others are allowed thus option 1 is not implicit.

James said:   6 years ago
Answer should be [B]. Only assumption II is implicit.

The word "those sales person" only pertains to a number of sales people. If "those" was replaced by "that" then I agree both statements are correct.

Himanshi r said:   6 years ago
Answer should be either assumption 1 or 2 or strictly assumption 1.

You simply cannot assume anything, that there is a security guard and even if you are assuming then there is no point to put any notice.

Ravvi prasad said:   6 years ago
As II is "The security guard posted at the gate [MAY BE] able to stop the sales persons entering the society".

Concentrate on may be, So can't this one may be implicit?