Logical Reasoning - Statement and Assumption - Discussion

The use of "implicit" I'm seeing in this test seems unnatural to me. Statement: M corporation has put up a sign on its fence. Implicit assumption: There is a corporation called M corporation. They own a fence. They have an owner or employee or subcontractor to put up a sign on it. They are on a planet that has gravity.

Inferences: They need some way to hold the sign up on the fence, or it will fall down. But this test is calling that an "implicit assumption" I think. The explanation might say "It follows that they would have some way to hold the sign on the fence".

So maybe the question is referring to inferences the listener might make without quibbling or rejecting the statement, rather than assumptions that must be necessary in order for the statement to be meaningful (which I would naturally conceive of as "implicit assumptions".)

So if I want the job I shall have to adjust my concept of "implicit assumptions" for this kind of exercise. It seems to be a test to hire underlings, not to hire managers or someone to be in control.

In my opinion, option B (Only Statement II is implicit) is correct.

Consider this instance:

The M Co-operative society might have employed huge sales workforce, out of them, they wanted to restrict the entry for some of the Salesman. Now in practical sense, just by seeing the notice/by overseeing the notice, such sales person may not stop entering the premises.

So to avoid them, a security guard may do the needful. Since Security Guard is also human, he cannot remember each and everyone whom to be stopped, so the notice will help (Also in practicality, security guard may get changed often since they are contract employees).

Since, 'Assumption I' states, " 'All the sales persons' will stay away from the 'M' Cooperative Housing Society", the assumption is contradicting the statement wherein it is specific to restrict some of the sales staff where as 'Assumption I' says to restrict all sales staff, it is not implicit. Other views are solicited.

Correct answer is B, as assumption I cannot be an implicit assumption because:

- The notice might not be noticed by all the sales persons (involuntarily).

- Some sales persons may be visually impaired.

- "Those sales persons" in the statement suggest that some sales persons only are not allowed inside the society, not all etc.

PS: For those who do not understand why the 'security guard' assumption is implicit: The security guard doesn't have to be mentioned in the statement, but if we assume there is a security guard posted at the gate, based on the notice, the security guard can stop the sales persons entering the society.

The answer must be D. The word 'those' implies that this notice is directed toward some specific salespeople and not all. Thus, i) is not implicit. And I have absolutely no clue from where a security guard came into the picture or even if he is present, he may be able to ward off salespersons. So ii) is also not implicit. The answer to me seems to be that neither are implicit, that is D.

There are two scenarios to the above question:

1) After Reading the Board, all the walkin salesman will be stay away.

2) Society Guard will be able to send back the walkin salesman who in any case try to get into the society.

But what about those salesman who have come with an appointment. The sentence no where mentions in particular the kind of salesman.

If you had a stack of money in a field, with no one guarding it but there was a sign saying not to take it you would still take if their was no one around. This means that the salespeople would still go near the establishment even if there was a sign saying they couldn't, thus the need for a guard to stop them from doing so.

ALL the sales person will not stay away. Some might find a way to trick the guard. Therefor answer A does not follow.

The guard MAY be able to stop the salesman. Or maybe he will not. How can "putting up a notice" have any impact on the guards ability to stop salesmen or not? therefor answer B does not follow.

I thought by attending this test I will increase my logical reasoning, but its making me down.

D is the correct answer. Security guard posted at the gate to stop those sales man, might me he has the list whom to send inside and whom to stop. Assumptions are made based on Indian thoughts for most of the q.

There is no mention of a security guard in a question then how can we assume the security guard will be there to stop them?

Some salesmen are an asshole and they would try to enter in spite of notice.

Overall scenario depends on individual thinking and how can we device who is right and who is wrong!

I agree with Amol, that there is no mention of security guard. But also, just because there is a notice put on the gate may not neccessarily keep "all the sales persons" away... some may still come despite the notice, so wouldnt D be a better answer?