Logical Reasoning - Statement and Assumption - Discussion
Discussion Forum : Statement and Assumption - Section 3 (Q.No. 41)
Directions to Solve
In each question below is given a statement followed by two assumptions numbered I and II. You have to consider the statement and the following assumptions and decide which of the assumptions is implicit in the statement.
Give answer
- (A) If only assumption I is implicit
- (B) If only assumption II is implicit
- (C) If either I or II is implicit
- (D) If neither I nor II is implicit
- (E) If both I and II are implicit.
41.
Statement: The 'M' Cooperative Housing Society has put up a notice at its gate those sales persons are not allowed inside the society.
Assumptions:
- All the sales persons will stay away from the 'M' Cooperative Housing Society.
- The security guard posted at the gate may be able to stop the sales persons entering the society.
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Since both the assumptions follow from the given statement, so both I and II are implicit.
Discussion:
44 comments Page 2 of 5.
Ravvi prasad said:
9 years ago
As II is "The security guard posted at the gate [MAY BE] able to stop the sales persons entering the society".
Concentrate on may be, So can't this one may be implicit?
Concentrate on may be, So can't this one may be implicit?
Anushka said:
9 years ago
The answer must be D. The word 'those' implies that this notice is directed toward some specific salespeople and not all. Thus, i) is not implicit. And I have absolutely no clue from where a security guard came into the picture or even if he is present, he may be able to ward off salespersons. So ii) is also not implicit. The answer to me seems to be that neither are implicit, that is D.
ABHINABA said:
9 years ago
"At its gate THOSE sales persons" as it has been mentioned those, it shows that only certain salesman are not allowed which will be done by the guard. So II is correct.
Jandy said:
9 years ago
We were talking about the post. Where did the guard came from?
Pooja said:
9 years ago
I Agree with @Richa.
The word "those" implies specific people only and therefore assuming "all salespersons" will stay away is not correct.
The word "those" implies specific people only and therefore assuming "all salespersons" will stay away is not correct.
Daarina said:
9 years ago
Why would they need a sign or notice if the salespeople stayed away?
Hing said:
9 years ago
If we assume sales would stay away from the building, why they need the notice, I is not correct assumption; II is valid only if 'security guard' is replaced with notice'. So it must be D.
Chandresh patel said:
9 years ago
There is no mention of a security guard in a question then how can we assume the security guard will be there to stop them?
Some salesmen are an asshole and they would try to enter in spite of notice.
Overall scenario depends on individual thinking and how can we device who is right and who is wrong!
Some salesmen are an asshole and they would try to enter in spite of notice.
Overall scenario depends on individual thinking and how can we device who is right and who is wrong!
VINOD said:
9 years ago
I agree with Richa (Sun, Dec 23, 2012 09:47:53 AM). The word "Those" in the question implies that it is applicable for some Sales person.
Rivan said:
10 years ago
Correct answer is B, as assumption I cannot be an implicit assumption because:
- The notice might not be noticed by all the sales persons (involuntarily).
- Some sales persons may be visually impaired.
- "Those sales persons" in the statement suggest that some sales persons only are not allowed inside the society, not all etc.
PS: For those who do not understand why the 'security guard' assumption is implicit: The security guard doesn't have to be mentioned in the statement, but if we assume there is a security guard posted at the gate, based on the notice, the security guard can stop the sales persons entering the society.
- The notice might not be noticed by all the sales persons (involuntarily).
- Some sales persons may be visually impaired.
- "Those sales persons" in the statement suggest that some sales persons only are not allowed inside the society, not all etc.
PS: For those who do not understand why the 'security guard' assumption is implicit: The security guard doesn't have to be mentioned in the statement, but if we assume there is a security guard posted at the gate, based on the notice, the security guard can stop the sales persons entering the society.
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