Civil Engineering - Theory of Structures - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Theory of Structures - Section 2 (Q.No. 30)
30.
The degree of indeterminacy of the frame in the given figure, is
1
2
3
zero
Answer: Option
Explanation:
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Discussion:
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Anomie said:   7 years ago
m = 10 j= 6 r = 5.
10 -2 * 6 + 5.
3.

Nyokir said:   6 years ago
Correct answer is 1.

ii= m-2j+3,
ie=r-R.
Total indeterminacy= ii+ie.

Where,
m=10, j=6, r=3, R=3.

Karn chaurasiya said:   6 years ago
Ds= m +r --2j ,m= 10,r= 3( hinge 2 roller 1 so total r=3), j = 6
Ds= m+r -2j= 10 +3 -2 * 6 = 1.

So I think the answer is 1 and if we take j= 5 then answer ds= 10+ 3 - 5 * 2 = 3.

Ajay said:   6 years ago
First panel carries 1 extra member which disturbs the triangular behaviour of the frame. Whereas the 2nd panel has perfect triangular behaviour.

So, the static indeterminacy is 1.

Anuraag Athreya said:   6 years ago
The hint is given in the question that BC should be considered as one member. So only 9 members.

5 Joints and 3 reactions...applying m+r-2j the answer is 2.

Anuraag Athreya said:   6 years ago
Considering a joint is one where only ends of the members are joining.

Saqib khattak said:   6 years ago
Anyone explain the correct method for the answer.

Manimegalai said:   6 years ago
How did you tell member=10? Joint=6, reaction=3, please explain.

Alagarbrindha said:   6 years ago
m= 12, r= 3, j= 7.
Ds= m+r-2j.
Hence Ds= 12+3-7(2) = 15-14 = 1.

Nihar said:   6 years ago
How to find r here?


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