Verbal Reasoning - Syllogism - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 10)
Directions to Solve

In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.

Give answer:

  • (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
  • (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
  • (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
  • (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
  • (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.

10.

Statements: All the pencils are pens. All the pens are inks.

Conclusions:

  1. All the pencils are inks.
  2. Some inks are pencils.

Only (1) conclusion follows
Only (2) conclusion follows
Either (1) or (2) follows
Neither (1) nor (2) follows
Both (1) and (2) follow
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Discussion:
23 comments Page 1 of 3.

Kavi said:   1 decade ago
how second statement comes true???
Please explain me..

Subhamay ghosh said:   1 decade ago
how second statement comes true???

Sruthi said:   1 decade ago
How second statement comes true?

Jitendra maurya said:   1 decade ago
Both sentence are universal affirmation hence conclusion must be universal affirmation and it should not include common term (pens). Hence conclusion first is right it again.

If all the pencils are inks then we can also conclude that some inks are pencil because sentence is not saying that all inks is pencil. Hence second also follow.

Rajini gaikwad said:   1 decade ago
There may be a chance to inks to be pencils.

Bhaskar said:   1 decade ago
Just convert the first statement.

By rule of conversion.

All -> some.

No -> somenot/no.

Some -> some.

Jyo said:   1 decade ago
How the second statement comes true please explain it?

Vik said:   1 decade ago
I guess this type can be solved fast only with circles. Otherwise I spent lot of time making conversion, looking to the M-distribution, figures and types (AII-3, etc. ) , making second sentence first, etc.

Siddhesh said:   1 decade ago
Hello I don't understood how the second statement are true because we can't draw the solution because it may or may not be says that some inks are pencil. So please explain it, how it is true?

Vignesh said:   1 decade ago
All the pencils are inks.
Some inks are pencils.

Why don't we take as either case? I mean either 1 or 2.


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