# Verbal Reasoning - Syllogism - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 10)
Directions to Solve

In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.

Give answer:

• (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
• (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
• (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
• (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
• (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.

10.

Statements: All the pencils are pens. All the pens are inks.

Conclusions:

1. All the pencils are inks.
2. Some inks are pencils.

Only (1) conclusion follows
Only (2) conclusion follows
Either (1) or (2) follows
Neither (1) nor (2) follows
Both (1) and (2) follow
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Discussion:
22 comments Page 1 of 3.

Indhu said:   2 years ago
How do both statements come true? Please explain it.
(1)

Khusi said:   4 years ago
How both statements comes true? Please explain to me.

Naresh Pathem said:   6 years ago
Yes, D is correct and remember the logic is SOME+SOME = Neither 1 nor 2 follow may cases.

Gopal singh said:   7 years ago
If all the pencil are inkes then some inkes are pencil.

Anonymous said:   7 years ago
I didn't understand the second statement. How will it come? Can anyone please explain it.

Krishna said:   8 years ago
When we choose 'either option'? Explain with an example.

Satyanandam said:   8 years ago
All +All = All only is the basic conclusion statement i.e we get it as ALL PENCILS ARE INKS.If we go to the basic structure of ALL it contains one definite item and indefinite item. Here Pencil is Definite and Inks is Indefinite. So we can write ink as Particular affirmative i.e by using SOME i.e SOME INKS ARE PENCILS.

PLEASE DON'T SPREAD MYTH OF GETTING MIDDLE CAN'T BE SAID IN A CONCLUSION. Just apply some common sense you will get it.

Yogii said:   8 years ago
When we use the converse rule?

Emamuddin Ansari said:   8 years ago
Yes, you are correct @Pavi.

Pavi said:   9 years ago
All A are B ---> some B are A.

According to that the 1st conclusion is subjected to one more derivative.

All pencils are inks ---> some inks are pencils.

So both follows.
(3)

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