Logical Reasoning - Statement and Assumption - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Statement and Assumption - Section 3 (Q.No. 41)
Directions to Solve

In each question below is given a statement followed by two assumptions numbered I and II. You have to consider the statement and the following assumptions and decide which of the assumptions is implicit in the statement.

Give answer

  • (A) If only assumption I is implicit
  • (B) If only assumption II is implicit
  • (C) If either I or II is implicit
  • (D) If neither I nor II is implicit
  • (E) If both I and II are implicit.


41.

Statement: The 'M' Cooperative Housing Society has put up a notice at its gate those sales persons are not allowed inside the society.

Assumptions:

  1. All the sales persons will stay away from the 'M' Cooperative Housing Society.
  2. The security guard posted at the gate may be able to stop the sales persons entering the society.

Only assumption I is implicit
Only assumption II is implicit
Either I or II is implicit
Neither I nor II is implicit
Both I and II are implicit
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Since both the assumptions follow from the given statement, so both I and II are implicit.
Discussion:
44 comments Page 4 of 5.

Richa said:   1 decade ago
Here in question THOSE word is used. It means talk is about some salesmen whom they know so B should be answer.

Sujit said:   1 decade ago
A watch man placed at the gate does not follow from the given statement as it is not at all mentioned here. This contradicts your explanation given in one of the previous questions, the one with the vegetable.

Ravi said:   1 decade ago
At least you need to specify that there is a guard.

Amol Joshi said:   1 decade ago
If at all there is a security guard at the gate of the society, there is no need of putting a notice at the gate. I think the answer is option A. How can we directly assume II ?? The presence/absence of the guard is not clearly mentioned in the statement .

Oscar said:   1 decade ago
If you had a stack of money in a field, with no one guarding it but there was a sign saying not to take it you would still take if their was no one around. This means that the salespeople would still go near the establishment even if there was a sign saying they couldn't, thus the need for a guard to stop them from doing so.

Law aspirant said:   1 decade ago
Answer is A, nothing is, mentioned about security guard, so we can predict as guard is helpful !

Sanjay Narvariya said:   1 decade ago
'Those sales person' implies to a particular group of sales person.

Abhishek said:   1 decade ago
The statement does not mention any 'security guard'. There may be more than one security guard, CCTV cameras, trained dogs, robots, whatever! How can we jump to a security guard conclusion.

Somnath dutta said:   1 decade ago
There is nothing mentioned about the security guard so how can we jump to the conclusion that the decision has been made by the security guard.

Rajesh said:   1 decade ago
In my opinion, option B (Only Statement II is implicit) is correct.

Consider this instance:

The M Co-operative society might have employed huge sales workforce, out of them, they wanted to restrict the entry for some of the Salesman. Now in practical sense, just by seeing the notice/by overseeing the notice, such sales person may not stop entering the premises.

So to avoid them, a security guard may do the needful. Since Security Guard is also human, he cannot remember each and everyone whom to be stopped, so the notice will help (Also in practicality, security guard may get changed often since they are contract employees).

Since, 'Assumption I' states, " 'All the sales persons' will stay away from the 'M' Cooperative Housing Society", the assumption is contradicting the statement wherein it is specific to restrict some of the sales staff where as 'Assumption I' says to restrict all sales staff, it is not implicit. Other views are solicited.


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