# Verbal Reasoning - Syllogism - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 3)
Directions to Solve

In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.

• (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
• (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
• (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
• (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
• (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.

3.

Statements: Some mangoes are yellow. Some tixo are mangoes.

Conclusions:

1. Some mangoes are green.
2. Tixo is a yellow.

Only (1) conclusion follows
Only (2) conclusion follows
Either (1) or (2) follows
Neither (1) nor (2) follows
Both (1) and (2) follow
Explanation:
Discussion:
51 comments Page 1 of 6.

Yangdol said:   7 months ago
Let's evaluate each conclusion:

Some mangoes are green.

This conclusion cannot be derived from the given statements. There is no direct information about the color of mangoes other than some of them being yellow.

So, we cannot conclude that some mangoes are green based on the given premises. (False)

Tixo is yellow.
This conclusion also cannot be derived from the given statements. While it is true that some Tixo is mangoes, we do not have any information about the colour of Tixo. So, we cannot determine whether Tixo is yellow or not based on the given premises. (False)

So, the correct option is:
d) Neither (1) nor (2) follows

Explanation:
Neither of the conclusions follows logically from the given statements. The information provided on the premises is not sufficient to draw conclusions about the colour of mangoes (green) or the colour of Tixo (yellow).

Therefore, both conclusions are not valid.
(1)

Mrinmoy said:   8 years ago
We have to draw and consider only the given facts and what we can conclude from them.

Other facts which may seem to be following from common sense is NOT correct. If it is not given in statements and cannot be concluded from the given statements using proper syllogism mechanism.

Facts which may seem to be incorrect according to common sense is correct, if it is given in statements or can be concluded from the given statements using proper syllogism mechanism.

Ravinder kumar said:   1 decade ago
By RAVAL'S notation Statements are M -Y and T - M and conclusions are M - G and T- Y. G is not present in the statement so M -G does not follow.We cannot link T - Y through common linking term M because we can deduce conclusion only when if common linking term multiplies i.e is in double letters,divides i.e become single letter from double letter or is in double letters in both statements

Ramya said:   7 years ago
It's Simple.

1) Some mangoes are green.
They have not mentioned about "Green" in Statements - So 1st conclusion is failed.

2) Tixo is Yellow.
We have to look on 1st and 2nd statement together but "Some + Some = No Conclusion". So 2nd conclusion also failed.

Hence, Neither 1 nor 2 follows.

Tixo need not necessarily be yellow. As in t 2nd diagram only is it found to be intersecting with mangoes n yellow.

Also mangoes may be green. Tht ws my answer as well, but I guess we just have 2 relate our conclusion the question n not consider other facts.

Vinayak Atkar said:   1 year ago
Option (D) is correct because;.

In 1st conclusion, Info about Green is not given so we assume Conclusion 1 is not correct.

In 2nd conclusion, correct info about Toxi is not given like Some or All so we assume Conclusion 2 is not correct.
(7)

Ravinder Kumar said:   9 years ago
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Ud baro said:   6 years ago
Some mangoes are green is not true because it is not mentioned anywhere in statement. Tixo is a yellow is also not true because you cannot say for certain that it is yellow. It may or may not be yellow. Thats neither.

Raval's notation is new simplest and quickest way to solve syllogism problems at a glance. Search 'raval notations at philpapers' in google and find complete new and simple approach published at University of London.

Najmul Haque said:   8 years ago
Some mangoes are green possible because all mangoes are not yellow.

It is not necessary all tixo is yellow (may be green) because some are yellow not all yellow.

So statement 1 is true.