# Verbal Reasoning - Syllogism - Discussion

### Discussion :: Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No.3)

In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.

• (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
• (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
• (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
• (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
• (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.

3.

Statements: Some mangoes are yellow. Some tixo are mangoes.

Conclusions:

1. Some mangoes are green.
2. Tixo is a yellow.

 [A]. Only (1) conclusion follows [B]. Only (2) conclusion follows [C]. Either (1) or (2) follows [D]. Neither (1) nor (2) follows [E]. Both (1) and (2) follow

Explanation:

 Tapan said: (Jun 18, 2010) Option (b) follows on observing figure 2, please explain.

 Veena said: (Nov 28, 2010) The condition should be satisfied on both diagram.

 Vikash Kumar said: (May 21, 2011) Some mangoes may be green. What if this is written in conclusion. Please do me reply.

 Sukanya said: (Jul 15, 2011) I feel option b is the right answer.

 Jubeca said: (Aug 6, 2011) Tixo need not necessarily be yellow. As in t 2nd diagram only is it found to be intersecting with mangoes n yellow. Also mangoes may be green. Tht ws my answer as well, but I guess we just have 2 relate our conclusion the question n not consider other facts.

 Raj said: (Sep 10, 2011) Mangos are green but here not mention. So how is D option.

 Sneha said: (Sep 15, 2011) Here is ans for this question. Just a simple logic. Always "SOME+SOME" gives answer as = "Neither (i) nor (ii)".

 Pushpendu said: (Sep 23, 2011) Some+some is not always neither (i) nor (ii). Ya but most cases.

 Ravinder Kumar said: (Dec 19, 2011) By RAVAL'S notation Statements are M -Y and T - M and conclusions are M - G and T- Y. G is not present in the statement so M -G does not follow.We cannot link T - Y through common linking term M because we can deduce conclusion only when if common linking term multiplies i.e is in double letters,divides i.e become single letter from double letter or is in double letters in both statements

 Manoj Kumar said: (Jan 5, 2012) I had studied Raval's notation and now any syllogism problem is just as simple as ABC for me.

 Rashmi said: (Jan 20, 2012) What is ''RAVAL'notation''. Please help me. It is very difficult for me to solve this type of problem.

 Manoj Kumar said: (Jan 22, 2012) Raval notations is new and simple method to solve syllogism problems at a glance. You can search this method on Google.

 Smita Pathak said: (Mar 15, 2012) Can some one one explain me ravals notation with example please ?

 Manoj said: (Dec 26, 2013) Raval's notation is new simplest and quickest way to solve syllogism problems at a glance. Search 'raval notations at philpapers' in google and find complete new and simple approach published at University of London.

 Seema said: (May 24, 2014) Its simple. As no middle term is distributed in both the premises no No conclusion follows.

 P.M.Chellapandi said: (Jun 20, 2014) I have a doubt on syllogism which is should we draw the figure only for the given statement or should we draw all the possible case. Please clear me.

 Adity said: (Oct 6, 2014) What is Raval's notation?

 Ravinder Kumar said: (Jul 31, 2015) Syllogism questions including possibility type questions are solved at glance by Raval's notations. Search 'Raval notations at philpapers' in google and find complete new and simple approach published at University of London.

 Satish said: (Sep 11, 2015) I think answer is option 2.

 Sunny said: (Sep 13, 2015) @Satish. How?

 Mrinmoy said: (Apr 5, 2016) We have to draw and consider only the given facts and what we can conclude from them. Other facts which may seem to be following from common sense is NOT correct. If it is not given in statements and cannot be concluded from the given statements using proper syllogism mechanism. Facts which may seem to be incorrect according to common sense is correct, if it is given in statements or can be concluded from the given statements using proper syllogism mechanism.

 Najmul Haque said: (May 21, 2016) Some mangoes are green possible because all mangoes are not yellow. It is not necessary all tixo is yellow (may be green) because some are yellow not all yellow. So statement 1 is true. So answer should be A.

 Fire said: (Jul 17, 2016) What is tixo?

 Reshmi said: (Sep 2, 2016) Here is only two picture but the same type of question on introduction page have 5 pictures. Why is the difference?

 Ramesh said: (Sep 10, 2016) Some + Some = No conclusion. So neither 1 nor 2 follows. Some mangoes are green i.e. all green are not mangoes but green is shaded with tixo and mangoes.

 Lakshmi said: (Oct 13, 2016) Tixo means?

 Priya said: (Oct 16, 2016) How it is D? Please explain! Option B may be correct.

 Ramya said: (Oct 20, 2016) It's Simple. 1) Some mangoes are green. They have not mentioned about "Green" in Statements - So 1st conclusion is failed. 2) Tixo is Yellow. We have to look on 1st and 2nd statement together but "Some + Some = No Conclusion". So 2nd conclusion also failed. Hence, Neither 1 nor 2 follows.

 Akash said: (Nov 8, 2016) Some mangoes are said yellow OK but not said all and in (1) some mangoes can be green also then why should not following (1).

 Vivek said: (Nov 14, 2016) @All, You guys are missing the point, a third diagram is possibly right, where tixo covers all of yellow and a part of mangoes.

 Sumit said: (Dec 29, 2016) What is tixo?

 Ranjan Kr Singh said: (Jan 27, 2017) In my point of view, option 2 is right.

 Kushal Pakhale said: (Feb 16, 2017) I think tixo means Green mango.

 Ravinder Kumar said: (Feb 21, 2017) Tixo is a mango which is green in color not yellow or pink.

 R Kumar said: (Feb 24, 2017) Tixo is a mango whose colour is not known because Some + Some give no conclusion.

 Vivek said: (Mar 7, 2017) When deals with venn diagrams it is better to follow minimum overlap rule, ie, in this case, first diagram will do and no common facts logic to be applied, like, tixo means green mango etc.

 Ud Baro said: (Nov 12, 2017) Some mangoes are green is not true because it is not mentioned anywhere in statement. Tixo is a yellow is also not true because you cannot say for certain that it is yellow. It may or may not be yellow. Thats neither.

 Shital said: (Dec 27, 2017) Only, b is right please explain it.

 Anil Chouhan said: (Jan 3, 2018) No, D should be the right answer.

 Jeeva said: (Feb 11, 2018) Option B is correct I think.

 Sumanta Kumar Gedi said: (Aug 3, 2018) I think it is option B.

 Sue said: (Feb 21, 2019) Yes, B is the correct answer than D. We can also that there is also one for some for number 2.

 Unnati said: (Jul 23, 2019) I think option B is the correct answer.

 Sunita said: (Aug 12, 2019) I think option B is right.

 Khushboo Patel said: (Aug 25, 2019) Conclusion is:- Tixo is yellow. So what does it mean:- all Tixo are yellow? OR Some TIXO are yellow. Since there is no word written before Tixo, So how it comes? Please tell me.

 Aniket said: (Jan 21, 2020) We can not go directly with the figure 2, Because in given problem there is nothing mention about the "some tixo is yellow" so we cannot go directly with figure 2.

 Prakash said: (Feb 8, 2020) Just follow the syllogism rules basis instead of Venn diagram then we get answer D.