Verbal Reasoning - Syllogism - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 10)
Directions to Solve

In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.

Give answer:

  • (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
  • (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
  • (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
  • (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
  • (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.

10.

Statements: All the pencils are pens. All the pens are inks.

Conclusions:

  1. All the pencils are inks.
  2. Some inks are pencils.

Only (1) conclusion follows
Only (2) conclusion follows
Either (1) or (2) follows
Neither (1) nor (2) follows
Both (1) and (2) follow
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Discussion:
24 comments Page 2 of 3.

Gopal singh said:   8 years ago
If all the pencil are inkes then some inkes are pencil.

Krishna said:   9 years ago
When we choose 'either option'? Explain with an example.

Satyanandam said:   9 years ago
All +All = All only is the basic conclusion statement i.e we get it as ALL PENCILS ARE INKS.If we go to the basic structure of ALL it contains one definite item and indefinite item. Here Pencil is Definite and Inks is Indefinite. So we can write ink as Particular affirmative i.e by using SOME i.e SOME INKS ARE PENCILS.

PLEASE DON'T SPREAD MYTH OF GETTING MIDDLE CAN'T BE SAID IN A CONCLUSION. Just apply some common sense you will get it.

Yogii said:   9 years ago
When we use the converse rule?

Jitendra maurya said:   1 decade ago
Both sentence are universal affirmation hence conclusion must be universal affirmation and it should not include common term (pens). Hence conclusion first is right it again.

If all the pencils are inks then we can also conclude that some inks are pencil because sentence is not saying that all inks is pencil. Hence second also follow.

Sruthi said:   1 decade ago
How second statement comes true?

Anu said:   10 years ago
How is the second statement true? Can someone please explain it in an easy way?

Rishi said:   1 decade ago
The right answer is A.

All+All=All.

Vignesh said:   1 decade ago
All the pencils are inks.
Some inks are pencils.

Why don't we take as either case? I mean either 1 or 2.

Siddhesh said:   1 decade ago
Hello I don't understood how the second statement are true because we can't draw the solution because it may or may not be says that some inks are pencil. So please explain it, how it is true?


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