Verbal Reasoning - Syllogism - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 5)
Directions to Solve

In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.

Give answer:

  • (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
  • (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
  • (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
  • (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
  • (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.

5.

Statements: Some papers are pens. All the pencils are pens.

Conclusions:

  1. Some pens are pencils.
  2. Some pens are papers.

Only (1) conclusion follows
Only (2) conclusion follows
Either (1) or (2) follows
Neither (1) nor (2) follows
Both (1) and (2) follow
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Discussion:
63 comments Page 4 of 7.

Anoimie said:   7 years ago
D is the answer as, pen is common and it is not distributive so no conclusion can be made.

Anand 7829701865 said:   6 years ago
Both follows, but possible venu diagram may be wrong, since all pencils are pens but it show some pencils also papers.

Vik said:   1 decade ago
Some papers are pens.("I") - isn't M(pens) distributed there? as I understand M is not distributed in "A" and "O".

Aishwarya.Y said:   1 decade ago
Actually the answer is based on "convergence" formula of both. It is true in both cases of venn diagram. So both 1 and 2 folllows.

Swagata said:   1 decade ago
Firstly.

If we go according to the distributed and undistributed pattern. Since the middle term "pens" isnt distributed even once.

So the statements donot hav any conclusion.

Secondly,

I agree with anvitha. The word "pens", since common should not come in the conclusion.

Kiran said:   1 decade ago
If we go according to the distributed and undistributed pattern.

Only Conclusion 2 follows.

Because middle term "pencils" is distributed from statement2.

Bhagya naidu said:   1 decade ago
Some easy method is necessary to know about it easily.

KASI REDDY said:   1 decade ago
TO this problem answer is given "D" so which one is correct answer please explain this?

Ajit said:   1 decade ago
According to the rule 3 of syllogism, the middle term should be distributed. Here the middle term is not distributed.

Shruthi said:   1 decade ago
can anyone tell the correct answer ?


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