Verbal Reasoning - Syllogism - Discussion
Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 5)
Directions to Solve
In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.
Give answer:
- (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
- (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
- (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
- (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
- (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.
5.
Statements: Some papers are pens. All the pencils are pens.
Conclusions:
- Some pens are pencils.
- Some pens are papers.
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Discussion:
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Divya Kunju said:
10 years ago
I think here they mentioned some papers are pens. But not some pens are papers. So only conclusion (i) follows.
Vinith paul said:
1 decade ago
How it comes? Please explain me.
Amar deep kunjan said:
1 decade ago
Yes, option E is correct by Venn diagram.
Sanghmitra choudhary said:
1 decade ago
Here the first statement is particular positive and the second statement is universal positive.
According to rule in 2 statement question there can be only 3 terms in 2 statement question.
I have solved like this:
1) I have converted the second statement in particular positive like some pens are pencil as there are 3 terms we have to make a->b then b->c.
So I have converted. But when both statements we take conclusion then as particular positive statement can be given conclusion only when 2 statement should be of universal positive or universal negative.
Then only both statement will conclude. So the answer should be neither follows. Then why E please reply.
According to rule in 2 statement question there can be only 3 terms in 2 statement question.
I have solved like this:
1) I have converted the second statement in particular positive like some pens are pencil as there are 3 terms we have to make a->b then b->c.
So I have converted. But when both statements we take conclusion then as particular positive statement can be given conclusion only when 2 statement should be of universal positive or universal negative.
Then only both statement will conclude. So the answer should be neither follows. Then why E please reply.
Adithi said:
9 years ago
The answer must be option D.
Aqil said:
9 years ago
Only conclusion 2 follow by 0, 1 method.
Parag said:
9 years ago
@Swati and @Adithi.
Please explain the reason.
But option B is right, pencils only distributed in pen according to this, conclusion 2 is right.
Please explain the reason.
But option B is right, pencils only distributed in pen according to this, conclusion 2 is right.
Kardy said:
9 years ago
Both, conclusion one and two follows. This is because if you reverse the sentence 'some paper are pens' you get 'some pens are papers' similarly if you reverse. 'all pencil are pens you get 'some pens are pencil'.
Shalini gupta said:
8 years ago
Option E is correct.
Deepanshu Samdani said:
8 years ago
Neither 1 nor 2 follows, this should be the answer, because in sentence "Some papers are pens" : papers and both are not-distributed and in sentence "All the pencils are pens" : pencils is distributed and pens are not-distributed so, if the common predicate (here is pens) is not distributed at least one time, then we can not draw any conclusion.
So, option 4 (D) is correct.
So, option 4 (D) is correct.
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