Reservations in the Private Sector

Let me say a few things about this.

1) The reservation was introduced in our constitution for a period of 10 years to bridge the economic and social gaps between different sections of society. Our constitution made a rule for reservations so that that these people who were oppressed for decades can be uplifted. 70 years after this we are still debating if we should increase the reservations more.

2) After all the increments in the reservation, the statistics 70 years later statistics still show that only 3.9% of the backward castes are Indian tax payers. i.e. despite all the "Caste based reservations" that were provided, there was little to no improvement in bridging those gaps. Aren't we showing the same oppression to the so called "Upper classes" of the society as the people of those evil unjust times?

3) Are we so blind to see that this reservation system is not working? Do we extend this plague to private sector as well?

There are approximately 7 lakh jobs in govt sector that are still vacant despite the reservation system. So, Since the reservation system is not working, what we are essentially saying is let us increase the reservations more and hope the problem gets resolved.

4) I have seen a few comments about people stating that private sector must hire people based on a caste rather than talent. To put things in perspective, no body from a private firm asks for a candidate's caste before hiring them.

5) Also, the government takes it's share in terms of all the revenue a firm generates in terms of income tax of the firm, several different forms of taxes on the commodities it sells (software is a commodity as well) not to talk about the income generated through the jobs that are created.

6) Let us say that we create reservations in the private sector for the "Up lifting of backward castes". People from other countries that are depending on these organizations to get their job done will face challenges because their work is being done by a person who got 40% in their academics, made it through the competitive world because of the reservation system.

7) Business in such situations is bound to fail because, the money, the jobs, the growth will move to some other country like China where merit is given precedence over birth. i.e. the private sector in this country will slowly bankrupt.

8) Despite all this, the reservations once introduced will never be removed because of all the political battles that precede.

9) All the jobs will slowly go away, country's economy will shrink and at the end.

10) For all the people who say that reservation candidates are also talented candidates, consider this.

A candidate from any background with a 99.99% score in a SAT test is valued more in any other country than a candidate from SC/ST/BC/OBC with 40% score. If you really have talent, then you do not need reservations.

As a conclusion, reservations in private sector will not only suppress the talented people in this country, it will also ruin the very economy of this country. What social justice can you do by giving jobs, if there are no jobs to give.

THAT'S OUR CONSTITUTION MY FRIENDS, WE SAY, WE ARE DEMOCRATIC ACTUALLY WE ARE NOT.

I think reservation should be given to all the needy people irrespective of ST/SC/OBC/General who cannot afford to study based on the Family Income. All are equal we cannot judge any person's ability/Intelligence based on the caste. There should not be any reservation for Jobs based Caste (SC/ST/OBC/General). Let the Government continue to make this reservation for physically challenged we all are happy we support this and lots of other good things as an Indian. I have personal seen SC/ST/OBC people whose families are financially very strong but still they enjoy the benefits because there are by birth SC/ST/OBC. Why can't we have subsidy cylinder concept here can any politician be brave enough to say come on now let's join hands in helping the Poor people who cannot afford to study only because of their Income. Now I request all the financial strong families of SC/ST/OBC to give up the SC/ST/OBC benefits go under management will people do? NEVER and trust me some of them have proxies certificate of SC/ST/OBC due to their poor financial problems and utilize this benefits.

People, please understand, if a person from General Category wants to apply for Government Jobs a challan of Rs. 500 to Rs. 600 should be taken and she/he should score more % what is expected as per that category. But SC/ST Category person can pay just Rs. 50/- and apply for the exam they can score fewer marks than General Category to get selected. What's happening General category people are born with silver/golden spoon is that the assumption if the Answer is YES who can prove this? We are not saying NO to the reservations, Let the SC/ST/OBC people pay Rs. 50/- there are lots of General Category people who cannot afford to pay that Rs. 500 or Rs. 600 to apply for a Job. Is there a logic in asking people to pay Rs. 50 and another side of the people to pay 10 times more. I understand public companies wants to make the profit but not HUGE PROFIT via application money.

I am proud of our Constitution that was very much needed to establish the fundamental principles and knowledge to govern each state and develop our Nation. I understand our Rules can be amended accordingly based on the people's need but both the Assembly members have to show the majority that's when good things can happen. But our Assembly members will not accept something that people want so easily until there is a big boycott/procrastination. But in that time period, some good/bad things do happen our people forget, say for example India Won the Match we start enjoying.

There is no use in writing or talking about this my friends but still we love our country, Jai hind!

Reservation is the process/system by which the government promotes the inclusive growth. But now, it has became a family reservation rather than caste reservation. A man who became IFOS or ACP or other administrative and executive jobs in public sector, become financially rich in the society.

According to me, he should be removed from the Quota once he used the opportunity. In India its not happen. His son became educated and he also get good job using Quota, even though he is rich. Already people are agitated against this in many parts as we know.

Completely eliminating the Quota will affect the deserved. Abraham Lincoln said " Government is for the people, by the people, to the people". So It's necessary for inclusive growth. It should be there in Government Sector.

But extending it to the private sector will lead to chaos. Once the reserved people get the Quota education, government's duty is over (According to me) , because they are already empowered. Apart from that, they also have the reservation in the public sector.

Private companies nurture competitiveness, growth. Forcing them to recruit people based on reservation will collapse the system. I am not saying, reserved people are not talented. I am saying if they are talented, let them compete with others. Let them prove themselves to the society and the recruiter.

In the private enterprises point of view, their main aim is profit maximization. Everyone runs company for profit not for charity. For their part, they are doing CSR activities. They are providing employment opportunities to the society.

They are contributing to the growth of GDP. Forcing them and involving in their decision making process will make them frustrated with the system. Then they have other nations, which are ready to welcome them with the red Carpet. Our aim of 7.6% GDP growth and Make in India will vanish in the near future, if it is allowed.

I want my country to grow in a proper way which includes inclusive as well as talent oriented growth. Dear bureaucrats, please think and decide. No reservation in Public sector needed.

Reservation in the private sector will be a death sentence not only for OBC or UC but also for SC ST after 3 to 4 years after it will be implemented once it will be implemented.

1) The first thing will be huge protests by general and OBC people riots and all that some may choose Naxalism too after all ST people don't have sole right to do bomb blasts and Naxalite activities.

2) protest from the private sector which will try to locate to different countries flow of FDI will become very less leading to less foreign reserves.

3) with reservations in the private sector quality of our products will go down we will not be able to export leading to less foreign reserves and outside companies will earn profit leading to an outflow of foreign reserves.

4) with foreign reserves going down govt will ban the import of many things leading to inflation in India and also leading to poor quality of indigenous goods.

5) with fewer exports, fewer foreign investments, and fewer jobs, the high inflation economy of India will start collapsing.

6) now as there is high inflation and no jobs people won't pay taxes and as govt doesn't give subsidies to OBC or UR it will try to cut subsidies of SC and ST.

7) SC ST will start a huge protest our foolish politician will accept their terms and will continue their subsidy by taking loans from other countries or IMF.

8) economy going down, no jobs, less tax collection, high inflation, repayment of loans, and less foreign reserves will lead to dark ages.

9) collapse of Indian economy unrest Naxalite separatist movement and activities will rise.

10) disintegration of India.

There is no doubt that reservation will be applied in future after all 16 per cent of India is SC 9. 5 per cent is SC 32 per cent is OBC than there is EWS ex-serviceman vimukt janjati females Physical disabled so practically India's 90 per cent population is reserved and India is a so-called democracy and our fool politicians will do anything for winning elections.

In simple words reservation in private sector will make India hell like pakistan.

I have read several comments. It's good a debate has started. But, one thing no one speaks about is the discrimination in the education, itself. I have chance to see different places in India. In cities like Delhi, a child starts education at age of three. In a recent photograph published in a newspaper, the student in Remote Himachal Pradesh, the student brave heavy snow to walk to school.

In Tripura, I have seen the students walking miles in rain and mud to reach school. Definitely they can not go to school before 6or 7 years of age or even more. Teacherwise; Practically no teacher in Government Schools of remote areas. Teachers engaged paying better than Government in Delhi based Public Schools.

An student of Delhi based public school never thinks being below IAS, IPS, Doctor or engineer. In a village school of remote areas or even in a municipal school of Delhi the students never think more than a clerk, peon or jobs like that. I think ultimately despite whatever, we achieve, we are answerable about what we do for the society. In a situation where our system is giving equal opportunities in studies, we claim of giving equal opportunity in recruitment.

Let me explain, as an officer in Central Government while working in North East, I was conducting tests and interview for recruitment for temporary posts. One girl appeared two/three times in test and interview but did not secceed. Next time, when she came for test. I asked her that she had appeared earlier also.

But why could she not do up to marks. She told me sir, I am from a poor family and had no opportunity to learn computer typing. It touched me as that time computer was not within approach of every one. I ordered that typing test be conducted on manual typewriter.

Believe me, the girl came as topper. This is just an example how it matters for have nots who can be from any caste or community to compete. I have several such examples. My firm believe is that unless we give uniform opportunity in imparting education, our claim giving uniform opportunity in employment.

So long I have been through this discussion.

1. Reservation system is good but depends on how it is implemented.

2. Every time whenever I take part in such discussions I always see people yelling about the 1000 years old India and system and all that, please take deep breath and ask yourself is that really good to yell about the past about which you don't even know completely.

3. We always have heard in the stories, once upon a time there was a poor brahmin, then according to that brahmins should be the poorest and lowest one but I hate to throw casteism in the reservation criteria.

4. I have been with a lot people who say all the time, why do I need to work hard when I have reserved seats and yeah that's fairly right. When non reserved candidate gain 500+ marks then still he is not able to get the admission while reserved one can even take admission below 125.

5. Private sectors demand work they take high talents. Do you know what will happen after private sectors allowing reservation in their system. The lack of job. They would pick very less number of the employees from India affecting the the non reserved ones too.

6. I am a non reserved candidate I have suffered a lot. I was alloted with below poverty level facilities like tuition fee waiver in college but then I found that the number of such candidates were higher whose family income was pretty high even greater then the upper middle class.

7. That's the spoilage of reservation system. Those who have the resources are taking advantage of the system while those who don't are getting down and down.

8. Let's put reservation at high pace for next 500 years and what will happen then. Looking in the future of India I clearly see reverse of the 70 year old situation.

9. And yeah the reservation system is the reason today that India is unable to produce even 100 of good engineers every year they just produce mass garbage of engineers.

10. India is youngest country and have almost nothing for the youth.

Reservation is a necessary evil, while it is true that reservation is a widely unpopular idea and upsets many. The most common question would be "why is someone who scored less than me is getting admitted into a college/job?" well to answer that question, you must ask yourself is the caste system really non-existent?

Reservation is justice rather than equality and there is a huge difference. If you think a physically handicapped person is entitled to reservation or want the infamous women bill to be passed, why not have the reservation for a "socially crippled" castes. While one's caste is not openly admitted we all secretly practice. Money and success alone cannot overcome this social barrier, only peers from his caste or similar backward caste would truly be able to help. Yes while I agree with Dr. Ambedkar that reservation should be meant for a fixed period not even he himself could decide upon this period due to nature of the problem. While this may anger many and some may even choose to insult me, I humbly ask this question - how many of your maids, drivers, cobblers, gardeners, plumbers, garbage collectors belong to a high caste and how many belong to a backward caste? and how many of your peers/colleagues/bosses belong to backward caste ? Why is it like that ? is it because socially backward people are not good at education or is it because all the people from the forward caste have extraordinary cognitive abilities ?

People from the backward castes are ashamed to admit their caste out loud, why ? Till the day that a person from the backward caste is able to admit his caste openly, reservation must exist.

Hi Friends,

Equals should be treated equally. Otherwise, Affirmative action is to be taken if the person is differently able.

India to get out of this vicious caste system, there should be a hope for the talented pool. It is almost impossible to remove reservations in Government sector (According to our constitutional framer B. R. Ambedkar. Its a Provision which has only to be continued for 10 years, but we can see its still existent).

Even belonging to a lower caste and availing reservation. I don't support giving reservations in the private sector.

In broad perspective, India jumped from primary sector to service sector without much growth in manufacturing and deemed to be developing state. After the economic reforms, India's pace of development increased due to investments from the corporate's (India & abroad). If given reservation, it will send a wrong signal that would show India not a good destination for investments and can reduce employment. Government cannot pressurize corporate's who only need the talented pool.

However, Provisions should be made so that the lower sections are not discriminated like there should be apathy towards caste system (No one should be denied job because of his caste, If there is provision to display the caste card then definitely reservations come into picture).

In a narrower perspective, it is really hard to make you understand as India is a plural society and every individual has his own views. It would a big essay as it is Political, Social, Economic, Cultural, regional and a religious issue which is hampering the growth graph of a most capable super power India.

It's representation not reservation. I want everyone to ask themselves since how many generations general merit peoples are getting education in India. Its irrelevant to answer because since Vedic age only upper caste men were getting education. Not only sc st obc even upper caste women were not getting education in this society. Because of constitution everyone are getting education. Sc st obc are now opening their account in education field. They are may be in 2nd or 3rd generation.

Compare to you people who had 100% reservation in Vedic age. Present reservation system is null. And you people think sc st obc means only 3 castes but inside them there are 1000 of community who claim for that minimum reservation. Remaining are claimed by 25% of gm people. These 25% people claim more than they deserve in population.

And coming to private sectors. The present percentage government jobs are reduced to avoid the growth of backward communities by allowing private sectors. Almost all private sectors are owned by upper caste peoples who are giving opportunities to their communities. If reservation is not allowed here one fine day these private sectors will replace whole government sector and they'll eradicate constitutional rights.

Due to unemployment backward communities will stop their children to schools. The whole India will be in the hands of 25% people (private sectors) and rest of them will work as slaves in their hands. If opportunities are not given to backward communities its impossible to develop India.

Reservations in private sector is a must, why because the governments are giving so many benefits to the private business people with the amount of the people including all castes irrespective of poor or rich. It is the obligation of the private sector to implement the reservations in their units. If they are not interested to implement reservations, they should not take any benefit from the government's. Industrial development is necessary but not on the cost of people.

Crores of Crores of rupees are being wasted by governments as benefits to private sector in the name of industrial development. How we are getting employment in other countries with reserved quota of VISAs (may be H1B or other) to India by other countries. Another thing is to mention here is, that the minor castes in India i.e. so called upper castes are enjoying more than 95% places are getting in all types of offices, may be due to recommendations, cash caste, or other.

No ST, SC engineer constructed dams/projects are collapsed so far in our country on the contrary others constructed have been collapsed. No ST, SC doctors have operated the patient's right hand/leg instead of left or vice versa, but others have done let. What I want to say that it is not the getting marks in the exams (all know how marks are being awarded). It is due to practice which makes perfect. For example our greatest ex president of India Dr. Abdul Kalam a below average student in his studies but he was called as great scientist.