Is Reservation in Higher Education Only Alternative for Social Equality?

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LEO said:   1 decade ago
Well Dr Ambedkar had devised a splendid plan for uplifting the backward classes. He was a great man with good vision but he failed to understand that it would be used by politicians for their own petty purposes. The reservation system is no more helping anyone. The problem is this: People, from the reserved categories, who have already got a job (say like a Bank manager, or assistant engineer or may be even a District Magistrate) are giving their sons every good facility that some of the general candidates can only dream of and they are also taking advantage of their caste.

The result: These new breed of category wale get all the bragging rights and most of them turn out to be spoil lads. But they hold high offices and you can imagine what is happening (from Bribes to God knows what). If the reservation system had really worked the slums would have reduced.

Just imagine the Indian cricket time having reservations and playing against Australia. This is exactly what is happening to India right now. Since the society's progress cannot be directly telecast on the TV screen the real situation is not being perceived.

There is another problem: resources of any nation are constant. Now with the population constantly increasing we are bound to go into a future where there will be a huge crisis of resources, say like fresh water. Now I do not know what will happen then.

Alarm bells in the Indian society are screaming and the divide between the rich and the poor is increasing. Every large industry feels India is not a good place to do business in.

I personally feel that people should try and get out of this country for a better future.
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Rajenderkumar said:   1 decade ago
Reservation of SC/ST, is 15% of total seats, I don't know why people are more worried about this small percentage and assume they are doing a big loss to talent people. Why they can't assume 85% person as 100% then they measure there talent. There are days where SC/ST was not allowed to enter into schools, at that time no body was worried, but now when they started reservation, then they wake up and showing bunch of reasons why reservation is wrong way of uplifting backward classes.

Can any body know how many talented people were not allowed at-least to enter school because of higher classes before reservation, and now they got chance to go school, now what wrong if just 15% talented (not backward classes) are not got chance. At that time 100% backward classes were not got change, no body was analyzed things, now 15% talented (not backward classes) are not got change, now every body started analyzing and worried about our country.

Remember Economical backward classes are different socially backward classes are different, don't mix both of them. If you want to correct, please remove weaver for backward classes on tuition fee if they are not economically backward classes, but even though they are not economically backward classes, they are socially backward they need reservation.
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Rahul said:   1 decade ago
It is good that the people talk about merit, equality, giving equal education, has the time come to remove reservation? The answer is no.

1) I understand the pain the non-reservation people feel but imagine it happened with our forefathers, it still happens with us when people taunt us for taking admission via reservation. Then Is your pain felt for one generation equal to pain, discrimination done to us for generations?

2) People who talk about merit should ask their parents. How many marks did they get in school. I know many managers, general managers, CEO from upper caste who can not utter single word in English. When we started studying vernacular medium, you guys started studying in English medium and when we started studying in English medium you went to CBSE and ICSE, and talk about merit based on marks. In IIT JEE 2013 main entrance test, top 20% of the students from each board are eligible. For ICSE cut off was 91%. For CBSE it was 81% and state boards it was 68-75%.

Is it the equality? Is it the merit. What if let say the state board guy who gets 78% does not get into IIT, will he/she get the seat in other colleges before ICSE and CBSE students. Is it merit. You rich father little brats. Go to rich school and pay money to get high scores. In schools like dhirubai ambani international school, aarya vidya mandir the lowest marks scored by student is 95% percent, then these guys come to state college for HSC and based on absolute score get into colleges.

WHERE IS EQUALITY?/ WHERE IS MERIT? Does it mean that the license of talent is given to only to such colleges.

3) When there was no reservation. How much of innovation happened in India. Where there any doctors in villages.

Grow up guys, by mugging and pasting the answers on answer sheet you and your forefathers have got marks and jobs. At least now there is a change happening.

Indian government spends crores of money on IIT and IIM's. How many IITians go to research. Most of them work in consulting, finance. Nothing else. (Don't give excuse that they are creating jobs.).

IIM's are fresher's factories for which people take 1-2-3 years drop to prove their aptitude and talent. I mean have you ever seen person in Harvard, Stanford who has taken drop for GMAT exams.

About people who take advantage of reservation (including people who forge the caste, income certificates) , they should be punished, taunted and not others who actually deserve it.
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Student said:   1 decade ago
According to me this system of reservation is wrong. There should be no reservation.

For example in my class there were two students namely A and B. A is SC and B is general A is rich and B is poor. A got 10,000 rank and B get 1,45,000 rank in MBBS than according to rank who should get the seat? who is hard working?Who would probably become a good doctor?Answers of all these question will be 10,000 rank gaining student but who got the seat the student who got 1,45,000 this is our constitution.

Now the question arises who could make the change in this? So called ministers who are themselves SC/ST. Then why they demolish there advantage.
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Rohith said:   1 decade ago
You know in Karnataka. Thy are not only giving reservations and free education for as AC and ST. But also gives full money for these category students to study in abroad and even he is very rich also he will get these benefits.
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Ritesh kumar panda said:   1 decade ago
Good morning gentleman.

A nice topic for discussion for all the youth of the country. Reservation, everybody has its likening and dislikes the reservation, but one must accept the realities. Somebody who says that the reservation in the menace of the contemporary India, they should well aware that the lower castes peoples are highly discriminated in past years, so we came across that they should given a chance to became a part of development.

But another problem of reservations is that the peoples who are from backward classes but are economically sound they are easily getting jobs not only in small scale but also in India's elite institution like IIT's and IIM's, these institute prepare their cut off for these peoples in nearly in two lakhs, so they didn't prepare for these institutions as other students do, therefore the institution find it difficult to produce engineers and managers of that level.

So lastly I would like to say that, lower class reservation can be limited but the peoples who are economically weak can't be avoided.
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Vijay kunar said:   1 decade ago
A general category poor but still able to enjoy a good status in society can study without social pressure on the other hand an SC/ST who got discriminated feel stressed because of this discrimination, their families had faced it for so long that they can't come up, it takes generations to get over with this discrimination how can you expect him to give 100% to studies. A SC/ST category guy/girl got beaten because of his caste even when he/she can buy that other person can you imagine his mental situation?
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Ankit Singh said:   1 decade ago
Why we talk about reservation only in education or in employment but whenever we go for donating blood but no one can ask about our caste or religious and no reservation is provided here.
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RISHABH DEV said:   1 decade ago
Three things should be done before removing reservation system.

1) Free education - There should not be any educational fee. So that every child rich or poor have equal opportunity everywhere.

2) Educational tax - Instead of taking fee, their should be educational tax so that all class of families rich, poor or middle afford it.

3) Ban private coaching institutes - If anyone want to teach, teach every child equally not just for their money. Instead of teaching in schools or college teachers open their own tution center so students who don't have deep pockets don't get good guidance.

Education is future of country, don't make it business.
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Vijay said:   1 decade ago
Hello friends good afternoon.

I would like to share my opinion pleas don't mind. It is very difficult task to remove the reservation in India but still we can solve the problem (as many friends specified above) by changing selection procedure for reservation.

The selection of student for scholarship is on the basis of some entrance exam instead of their cast or all the admission is on the basis of open merit percentage and you can give scholarship for SC/ST etc.

I think it may be work for people who get frustration because of reservation and many student feel happy youth power is the power of country.

Thank you.
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