Is Reservation in Higher Education Only Alternative for Social Equality?
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Aritra Majumdar said:
8 years ago
It is true that once upon a time reservation was needed because the so-called backward classes needed a place in the society so far as education and jobs are concerned. However, the scenario is vastly different nowadays where the same is being misutilized. In my opinion, reservation in higher education can't bring social equality because of the following reasons:.
1. It hurts meritorious and needy students who aren't able to get admission to reputed institutions because of quota.
2. Candidates having some sort of quota have no inclination towards studies because they take everything for granted.
3. Only. 0. 6% of all scholarships in India are merit-based.
4. It is not difficult for someone to produce an SC/ST/OBC certificate just to get admission to the reputed institution.
5. It's a myth that backward classes aren't financially well off these days.
6. Reservation in education is caste based and not based on financial status.
1. It hurts meritorious and needy students who aren't able to get admission to reputed institutions because of quota.
2. Candidates having some sort of quota have no inclination towards studies because they take everything for granted.
3. Only. 0. 6% of all scholarships in India are merit-based.
4. It is not difficult for someone to produce an SC/ST/OBC certificate just to get admission to the reputed institution.
5. It's a myth that backward classes aren't financially well off these days.
6. Reservation in education is caste based and not based on financial status.
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Prerna said:
6 years ago
The reservation system has helped a lot in the betterment of the society, earlier backward classes were not even treated as humans. It was a very bad scenario. Many of them have actually come out of that poverty line but to say that the problem has been solved is an understatement.
There are still many villages which are in a bad situation, to know the state of the backward people we have to go to the very depth of it. They won't even know about the reservation system.
And the major set back which will follow if the reservation system is suddenly banned is that those minorities are going to suffer massive bullying. Bullying on bases of the cast is still prevailing in schools. People are afraid of disclosing their cast. Dalits are still being the victims of mob lynching.
So, as the topic asks if the reservation system was the only alternative for social equality then I would say no there is still a lot to be done.
There are still many villages which are in a bad situation, to know the state of the backward people we have to go to the very depth of it. They won't even know about the reservation system.
And the major set back which will follow if the reservation system is suddenly banned is that those minorities are going to suffer massive bullying. Bullying on bases of the cast is still prevailing in schools. People are afraid of disclosing their cast. Dalits are still being the victims of mob lynching.
So, as the topic asks if the reservation system was the only alternative for social equality then I would say no there is still a lot to be done.
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LATHIF said:
1 decade ago
I hate Reservations. According to the talent, ability and skills, one should be given position in this world but not according to these nonsense reservations. May be 25% of the people getting benefited and the rest are suffering. Reservation in India has to last only for 10 years. But it was almost six times the given period. The people who are getting reservations are becoming lazy because they were confident about their jobs. The others are losing hope for their future.
Reservation less people may not be wealthy and the reservation people may not be poor. Many people were really losing hopes because of this stupid reservations.
"IT THE RESERVATIONS STILL CONTINUE LIKE THIS, INDIA WILL BE A DEVELOPING COUNTRY FOREVER. WE WILL NEVER REACH THE DREAM OF HAVING INDIA AS A DEVELOPED COUNTRY. IT WILL REMAIN AS A DREAM FOREVER. ".
SORRY, if I hurt the feelings of the others, but it was really true.
Reservation less people may not be wealthy and the reservation people may not be poor. Many people were really losing hopes because of this stupid reservations.
"IT THE RESERVATIONS STILL CONTINUE LIKE THIS, INDIA WILL BE A DEVELOPING COUNTRY FOREVER. WE WILL NEVER REACH THE DREAM OF HAVING INDIA AS A DEVELOPED COUNTRY. IT WILL REMAIN AS A DREAM FOREVER. ".
SORRY, if I hurt the feelings of the others, but it was really true.
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D Suraj Kumar said:
9 years ago
Hi guys, I am Suraj.
So far want I found in the discussion is most of us are in favour of non-reservation admin policy which will never going to happen because it's not just about you and your SC/ST friend who is gaining advantage over our policy, there are many others who still need to be uplifted and the government facing difficulty to find out who the real needy is and this won't happen until we abolish poor and illiteracy. The education system has to be changed and categorising people based on caste should be removed because we never know the one who missed getting admission in universities based on caste system could have become and this's the major factor which is dragging the development of our nation back. If at all we want to fight against it there are many who are waiting to destroy the peace and create a civil war in our nation which we are afraid of.
So far want I found in the discussion is most of us are in favour of non-reservation admin policy which will never going to happen because it's not just about you and your SC/ST friend who is gaining advantage over our policy, there are many others who still need to be uplifted and the government facing difficulty to find out who the real needy is and this won't happen until we abolish poor and illiteracy. The education system has to be changed and categorising people based on caste should be removed because we never know the one who missed getting admission in universities based on caste system could have become and this's the major factor which is dragging the development of our nation back. If at all we want to fight against it there are many who are waiting to destroy the peace and create a civil war in our nation which we are afraid of.
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Raj said:
10 years ago
Hi friends.
I agree there is need for reservation. Most of the reserved seats in elite institutes remains vacant. That shows the progress of backward caste. Also no one guarantee that reservation based on financial condition will not be misused. I am proud Indian and believe we Indians will be fist to misuse it. We have high ethics value we are discussing this to remove the reservation because we want opportunity to misuse it.
There are instances where it is being misused. In west Bengal the schools will publish vacancy for certain subjects where its difficult to find the reserved category students. If not found then there is provision to convert the seat to general category. Also can anybody tell me what is the fee for medical education from management quota. Its in Lakhs. So this doctors from private medical colleges are very skilled and competent.
I agree there is need for reservation. Most of the reserved seats in elite institutes remains vacant. That shows the progress of backward caste. Also no one guarantee that reservation based on financial condition will not be misused. I am proud Indian and believe we Indians will be fist to misuse it. We have high ethics value we are discussing this to remove the reservation because we want opportunity to misuse it.
There are instances where it is being misused. In west Bengal the schools will publish vacancy for certain subjects where its difficult to find the reserved category students. If not found then there is provision to convert the seat to general category. Also can anybody tell me what is the fee for medical education from management quota. Its in Lakhs. So this doctors from private medical colleges are very skilled and competent.
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Vipin said:
9 years ago
I am surprised why people oppose reservation for SC and ST. I think the biggest reservation in India is being enjoyed by the so called upper castes. According to me inheritance is the biggest reservation. The children of rich and powerful gets the same automatically without appearing in any exam. For example the son of a priest automatically gets the rights of the temple from his father to earn his lively hood without any competition. The children of Industrialist, big farmers, landlord, traders, politicians, exporters etc. Gets the same which is only reserved for them. Actually the biggest problem of the persons who opposes reservation lies with their own people who captures 80% of Indian economy, but they cannot fight with them because they belongs to their own caste. So they find an easy way to criticise by criticising reservation Before.
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Mahima said:
1 decade ago
Reservation in higher education will never be an alternative for social equality. It creates differences between the higher caste and lower caste. All people have same blood and flesh nothing differs here then why should a term reservation create difference between humans. I personally hate reservations since they act as barriers for healthy and friendly relationships between people.
Due to such misconceptions inequality is developing. INDIA WILL REMAIN AS A DEVELOPING NATION IF WE DO NOT ABOLISH THESE RESERVATIONS. We all should act against this criteria since rich are getting richer and poor are remaining poor in these aspect. The people with higher reservation should not be considered as the ones who are wealthy and lower caste are not poor. If we oppose this we can see INDIA as the THE HIGHLY DEVELOPED COUNTRY in a short span of time.
Due to such misconceptions inequality is developing. INDIA WILL REMAIN AS A DEVELOPING NATION IF WE DO NOT ABOLISH THESE RESERVATIONS. We all should act against this criteria since rich are getting richer and poor are remaining poor in these aspect. The people with higher reservation should not be considered as the ones who are wealthy and lower caste are not poor. If we oppose this we can see INDIA as the THE HIGHLY DEVELOPED COUNTRY in a short span of time.
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Gopalkrishna said:
10 years ago
Friends.
I want present reservation should be changed. Separate & solid basic education be provided to socially & economically backward class to compete with others. Who have availed these benefits for 2 generation be excluded. Only genuine people to get reservation benefits. Student belonging to general merit class be provided seats upto last reserved seats equally.
First seats be allotted to all the meritorious students irrespective of caste|areas. General merits peoples pays huge personal tax in lakhs of crores for national welfare&it is gross injustice to deny them seats in higher education.
So abolish reservation do scientific survey before offering reservation. All certificates provided to claim benefits should be counter checked by authorities strictly. Reservation to be provided only on the basis of merit only.
I want present reservation should be changed. Separate & solid basic education be provided to socially & economically backward class to compete with others. Who have availed these benefits for 2 generation be excluded. Only genuine people to get reservation benefits. Student belonging to general merit class be provided seats upto last reserved seats equally.
First seats be allotted to all the meritorious students irrespective of caste|areas. General merits peoples pays huge personal tax in lakhs of crores for national welfare&it is gross injustice to deny them seats in higher education.
So abolish reservation do scientific survey before offering reservation. All certificates provided to claim benefits should be counter checked by authorities strictly. Reservation to be provided only on the basis of merit only.
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Sagar sharma said:
1 decade ago
Hello everyone,
I support reservation because in INDIA more than half of the population still believe in casteism. "Right to Equality" is just in papers not in real practical life. People still discriminate on basis of caste. They treat lower caste people as they are nothing.
The quality of life of some SC/ST has improved just because of reservation. Imagine Upper caste people sitting in higher position, do you really think they will ever give opportunity to lower class people.
In India people still say they are proud to be Rajput, Brahmin etc etc. They have NOT done anything to achieve this, they have randomly landed in a very random family with some random caste. It's good to think that you aren't inferior to others but having a superiority complex on the basis of your "religion" or "caste" also makes you a big racist.
I support reservation because in INDIA more than half of the population still believe in casteism. "Right to Equality" is just in papers not in real practical life. People still discriminate on basis of caste. They treat lower caste people as they are nothing.
The quality of life of some SC/ST has improved just because of reservation. Imagine Upper caste people sitting in higher position, do you really think they will ever give opportunity to lower class people.
In India people still say they are proud to be Rajput, Brahmin etc etc. They have NOT done anything to achieve this, they have randomly landed in a very random family with some random caste. It's good to think that you aren't inferior to others but having a superiority complex on the basis of your "religion" or "caste" also makes you a big racist.
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Reshma said:
5 years ago
Education is the ultimate weapon to take away the remnants of a caste based society. If it itself discriminates based on caste then that sprouts the wrong idea in mind of individuals. Education must be made cheaper and of more quality so that the deserving students would never miss their chance for education but also make sure that the quality of education is not compromised at any costs.
Reservation based on caste creates new forms of discriminations as the deserving are denied their chances and also create a sense of injustice in them simultaneously creating a feeling of inferiority in the minds of students backed with reservation. So if at all reservations are given they should be based on income. What is more needed is proper awareness about the importance of education and aspirational thinking from a young age itself.
Reservation based on caste creates new forms of discriminations as the deserving are denied their chances and also create a sense of injustice in them simultaneously creating a feeling of inferiority in the minds of students backed with reservation. So if at all reservations are given they should be based on income. What is more needed is proper awareness about the importance of education and aspirational thinking from a young age itself.
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