Civil Engineering - Strength of Materials - Discussion
Discussion Forum : Strength of Materials - Section 1 (Q.No. 24)
24.
If n is the ratio of internal and external diameters of a hollow shaft, the ratio of the weight of the hollow shaft and that of solid shaft of same strength, will be
Discussion:
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Shankar said:
7 years ago
The strength of shaft means max. torque or max power transmitted capacity.
Here asking their strength equal means weight ratio of the shaft.
So weight depends on the size of the shaft.
We taking maximum torque equation of finding dia of the shaft.
Consider d for outer dia of hollow shaft and nd for inner dia of the shaft.
Then formula = (π) * [ d^4 - (nd)^4] * shear stress /16/d^4.
Assume dia of solid shaft D.
Then we equating torque of solid shaft = torque of the hollow shaft
we get D = { [d^4 - (nd)^4 ]/ d^4 }
The weight depends on the area of the shaft section so,
Hollow shaft cross-section area / solid shaft cross-section area.
By substituting the value of solid shaft dia in area formula we get the final answer.
Here asking their strength equal means weight ratio of the shaft.
So weight depends on the size of the shaft.
We taking maximum torque equation of finding dia of the shaft.
Consider d for outer dia of hollow shaft and nd for inner dia of the shaft.
Then formula = (π) * [ d^4 - (nd)^4] * shear stress /16/d^4.
Assume dia of solid shaft D.
Then we equating torque of solid shaft = torque of the hollow shaft
we get D = { [d^4 - (nd)^4 ]/ d^4 }
The weight depends on the area of the shaft section so,
Hollow shaft cross-section area / solid shaft cross-section area.
By substituting the value of solid shaft dia in area formula we get the final answer.
Krishna sai said:
7 years ago
Assume External diameter = d then internal diameter = nd.
As both the cases have equal strength so equate both strength which is polar modulus
case 1 polar modulus = pi()*(d^4-nd^4)/32/d/2
case 2 polar modulus = pi()*(D^3)/16.
Equating both find D in terms of n pi()*(d^4-nd^4)/32/d/2 = pi()*(D^3)/16
D = d((1-n^4)^1/3.
Now weight is directly proportional to Area.
area in case 1 = pi()*(d^2-nd^2)/4,
Area in case 2 = PI()*(d((1-n^4)^1/3)^2/4,
dividing both we get the ratio as (1-n^2)/(1-n^4)^2/3.
As both the cases have equal strength so equate both strength which is polar modulus
case 1 polar modulus = pi()*(d^4-nd^4)/32/d/2
case 2 polar modulus = pi()*(D^3)/16.
Equating both find D in terms of n pi()*(d^4-nd^4)/32/d/2 = pi()*(D^3)/16
D = d((1-n^4)^1/3.
Now weight is directly proportional to Area.
area in case 1 = pi()*(d^2-nd^2)/4,
Area in case 2 = PI()*(d((1-n^4)^1/3)^2/4,
dividing both we get the ratio as (1-n^2)/(1-n^4)^2/3.
Ram Krishna Adhikari said:
9 years ago
Now, d = nD, D = d/n.
Ratio of the weight = ratio of C/A = (d^2 * (1/n^2-1))/D^2 ...1.
Find d^/D^2 as follows:
((d/n)^3 - d^3)/D^3 = Th/Ts = 1
(d/D)^2 = (1-n^2)/(1-n^4)^(2/3).
Substitute in eq 1 you will get the answer.
Ratio of the weight = ratio of C/A = (d^2 * (1/n^2-1))/D^2 ...1.
Find d^/D^2 as follows:
((d/n)^3 - d^3)/D^3 = Th/Ts = 1
(d/D)^2 = (1-n^2)/(1-n^4)^(2/3).
Substitute in eq 1 you will get the answer.
U.S.lakshmi said:
6 years ago
I am going to prepare with this help after second carrying after two years so please explain with notations and clearly.
Dalisha said:
9 years ago
Given, d/D = n and stress ratio D^4 - d^4/D^4 = Th/Ts.
Now, d = nD, D = d/n putin above and get 1 - n^2/(1 - n^4)^2/3.
Now, d = nD, D = d/n putin above and get 1 - n^2/(1 - n^4)^2/3.
Tailam mahesh said:
8 years ago
I can't understand. Can anyone explain clearly?
Vikas kumar said:
7 years ago
What is polar modulus?
And what is p=, I=?
And what is p=, I=?
M.raja reddy(svkp cumbum) said:
9 years ago
Anyone give explanation for the answer.
LATHA said:
8 years ago
Please expain clearly.
Manvitha said:
6 years ago
Thank you @Krishna.
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