Aptitude - Time and Distance - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Time and Distance - General Questions (Q.No. 13)
13.
It takes eight hours for a 600 km journey, if 120 km is done by train and the rest by car. It takes 20 minutes more, if 200 km is done by train and the rest by car. The ratio of the speed of the train to that of the cars is:
2 : 3
3 : 2
3 : 4
4 : 3
Answer: Option
Explanation:

Let the speed of the train be x km/hr and that of the car be y km/hr.

Then, 120 + 480 = 8       1 + 4 = 1 ....(i)
x y x y 15

And, 200 + 400 = 25     1 + 2 = 1 ....(ii)
x y 3 x y 24

Solving (i) and (ii), we get: x = 60 and y = 80.

Ratio of speeds = 60 : 80 = 3 : 4.

Discussion:
84 comments Page 1 of 9.

Rajesh Kumar said:   3 years ago
Question in given that,
Total Distance covered by train & car = 600 km.
By train covered distance: 120 Km.
By car covered distance: 600-120 = 480 Km.
Time taken covered by total distance both train and car = 8 hours.

Let,
Train speed is = x kmph.
Car speed is = y kmph.

So,
120/x+480/y=8 --> (1)
In second part given time more 20 minutes=8+20/60=8+1/3=25/3
200/x+400/y=25/3 --> (2)
In eq. 1 and 2 for equal x or y number equal for getting value x and y in one
(1) eq. multiply 5 and (2) equation 3, getting
600/x+2400/y=40 --> (3)
600/x+1200/y=75/3--> (4)
Subtracting eq. 3 in 4, getting;
1200/y = 40 - 75/3.
1200/y = 120 - 75/3.
1200/y = 45/3
15Y = 1200.
Y = 80kmph speed of Car.
Putting y value in eq. (2).
200/x+400/80 = 25/3.
200/x+5 = 25/3.
200+5x/x = 25/3.
200+5x = 25x/3.
200 = 25x/3-5x
200 = 25x-15x/3
200 = 10x/3
600 = 10x
x = 60kmph speed of the train.
the ratio of speed train: car.
= 60:80.
= 3/4.
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Heisenberg said:   2 years ago
@Suresh.

Why 120/x + 480/y = 8, How 8 come?
Please explain.
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Bansal Hitesh said:   6 years ago
Distance =600 km
Time take =8 hrs.
Distance =Speed *time Then
Time = Distance/Speed
SO
Total time = Total Speed.
Suppose train speed = X, And Car speed = Y.

Then 120/X +480/Y = 8 hrs.
Then 120 take common,
120[1/X+4/Y] =8 hrs.
1/X+4/Y = 8/120
1/X+4/Y = 1/15 ----> (1) equation.

Total time is 8 hrs.20 min. mean(8*1/3)
8*1/3 =25/3
200/X+400/Y =25/3 Then
200 Common.

200[1/X+2/Y] = 25/3.
1/X+2/Y =25/3*200.
1/X+2/Y =1/24 ---> (2) equation.

Solve both (1),(2) eqn.

We get 2/Y =1/15-1/24,
When solve this we get 2/Y =1/40,
Y=80 put this value on the first eqn.
You get X = 60
So the ratio of X:Y 3:4.
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Suresh said:   4 years ago
Why 120/x + 480/y = 8, How 8 come? Please explain.
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Fiyona said:   2 years ago
Let the speed of the train be =x km/hr.
And the speed of the car be =y km/hr.

It takes eight hours(8hrs) for a 600
km journey, if 120;
km is done by train and the rest by car(600-120=480).

Convert the above word statement into mathematical form-
Then,
120x + 480y = 8.

Take the number common(120) from both sides of the equations and so it is removed.
∴1x+4y=1/15 ---> (a)

Also, given that; It takes 20.
minutes more, if 200.
km is done by train and the rest by car.

Convert minutes in an hour
∴200/x+400/y = 8 + 20/60.

Simplify the above equation;
⇒200/x+400/y = 8 + 1/3
⇒200/x + 400/y = 25/3.

Take common(200) from both sides of the equation and remove
∴1/x+2/y=1/24 ---> (b).

Take equations (a) and (b)
and find the value of the unknown.

By using the elimination method- subtract equation (b) from equation (a).
⇒4/y−2/y=1/15−1/24.
( 1x is removed in subtraction)
taking lcm.

⇒2/y = 8 - 5/120
2/y = 3/120,
y = 80km/hr.
Substitute value of “y” in equation (a)
∴1/x+4/80=1/15 ⇒1/x+1/20=1/15.

Make unknown “x” as the subject –
∴1x = 1/15−1/20,
⇒1x = 20−15/(15)(20),
⇒1/x = 5/300,
⇒1/x = 1/60,
⇒x = 60 km/hr.
Now the ratio of the speed of car and train is;
=x/y = 60.80 = 3/4.
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Ria said:   11 months ago
How did 8 come in solution?

Please explain me.
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Shoban said:   4 years ago
For those who are facing problems solving equation 1 & 2.

We got that,
eq 1: 1/x+4/y=1/15 =>1/x=1/15-4/y.
eq 2: 1/x+2/y=1/24 =>1/x=1/24-2/y.

Now equate the 1/x values.
i.e 1/15-4/y=1/24-2/y =>2/y=1/15-1/24
So you get y = 80.
By submitting y in the eq 1: 1/x+4/80=1/15 u get x =60.
X:Y= 60:80 =>3:4.
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Siva B said:   8 months ago
@All.

Here is my explanation.
120/x - 480/y = 8
by taking 120 commons we get
1/x - 4/y = 8/120,
1/x -4/y = 1/15 ---> (1)
200/x - 400/y = 8+20/60
min so div by 60.

By taking common 200 we get
1/x - 2/y = 1/24
Solving both equations.
1/x + 4/y = 1/15 --> (1)
1/x + 2/y = 1/24 --> (2)
By subtracting (1),(2)
4/y -2/y = 1/15 - 1/24,
2/y = 8-5/120,
2/y = 1/40,
Y = 80.

Sub y = 80 in eq (1)
X = 60
Therefore x : y.
60:80 div by 2,
And finally answer = 3:4 we get.
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Hemalatha said:   9 months ago
Let the speed af the train be T and car be C.

The time taken by train and car is:
120/T+480/C=8hrs is equation 1
200/T+400/C=8hrs 20 mins which is 200/T+400/C=25/3 is equation 2

Multiply equation (1)by 5 and equation (2) by 3 to cancel the fractions;
Therefore,
600/T+2400/C = 40
600/T+1200/C = 25

Now subtract equation (1) and (2);
Therefore,
(600/T + 2400/C = 40) - (600/T + 1200/C = 25).
1200/C = 15,
C = 1200/15,
C = 80.

Substitute C = 80 in equation (1)
600/T + 2400/80 = 40,
600/T = 40 - 2400/80.
600/T = 800/80,
T = 600/10.
T = 60.

So the ratio for train and car would be:
60:80
Therefore the ratio is 3:4.
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Ayush said:   2 years ago
We got that,

Eq 1: 1/x+4/y=1/15 =>1/x=1/15-4/y.
Eq 2: 1/x+2/y=1/24 =>1/x=1/24-2/y.

Now equate the 1/x values.
i.e 1/15-4/y = 1/24-2/y =>2/y = 1/15-1/24.

So you get y = 80.
By submitting y in the eq 1: 1/x+4/80=1/15 and you get x =60.
X : Y = 60:80 =>3:4.
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