Aptitude - Pipes and Cistern - Discussion
Discussion Forum : Pipes and Cistern - General Questions (Q.No. 12)
12.
A large tanker can be filled by two pipes A and B in 60 minutes and 40 minutes respectively. How many minutes will it take to fill the tanker from empty state if B is used for half the time and A and B fill it together for the other half?
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Part filled by (A + B) in 1 minute = | ![]() |
1 | + | 1 | ![]() |
= | 1 | . |
60 | 40 | 24 |
Suppose the tank is filled in x minutes.
Then, | x | ![]() |
1 | + | 1 | ![]() |
= 1 |
2 | 24 | 40 |
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x | x | 1 | = 1 |
2 | 15 |
x = 30 min.
Discussion:
51 comments Page 1 of 6.
Kushagr said:
9 years ago
@Sri, if we try by the method of LCM the answer is 32 only.
Explained as,
A takes 60 mins
B takes 40 mins
taking LCM of both 60 and we get 120.
Considering 120 to be the capacity of the tank.
Now A fills the 120/60 = 2 units/min
B fills 120/40 = 3 units/min.
Combined A and B fill 3+2 = 5 units per min.
Now half of the units is filled by B alone i.e 120/2 = 60 units (half of capacity calculated by taking the LCM).
Therefore, the time taken by B alone is 60/3.
(calculations
3 units = 1 min
1 unit = 1/3 mins
60 units = 60/3 = 20 mins)
So B alone takes 20 mins.
Now for other half,
A and B together fills remaining 60 units.
A and B together fills 3+2 units/min = 5 units/min
(calculation
A+B fills 5 units in 1 min
they fill 1 unit in 1/5 min
further, they fill 60 units in 60/5 = 12 mins)
Therefore they take time = B alone time + time taken by A and B Combined = 20 + 12 mins = 32 mins.
Explained as,
A takes 60 mins
B takes 40 mins
taking LCM of both 60 and we get 120.
Considering 120 to be the capacity of the tank.
Now A fills the 120/60 = 2 units/min
B fills 120/40 = 3 units/min.
Combined A and B fill 3+2 = 5 units per min.
Now half of the units is filled by B alone i.e 120/2 = 60 units (half of capacity calculated by taking the LCM).
Therefore, the time taken by B alone is 60/3.
(calculations
3 units = 1 min
1 unit = 1/3 mins
60 units = 60/3 = 20 mins)
So B alone takes 20 mins.
Now for other half,
A and B together fills remaining 60 units.
A and B together fills 3+2 units/min = 5 units/min
(calculation
A+B fills 5 units in 1 min
they fill 1 unit in 1/5 min
further, they fill 60 units in 60/5 = 12 mins)
Therefore they take time = B alone time + time taken by A and B Combined = 20 + 12 mins = 32 mins.
Asik Ahamed said:
2 months ago
Given :
A = 1/60 min
B = 1/40 min.
B works alone half time means 1/2, no confusion, put x/2.
A and B both work together that also one half puts another x/2.
Step 1 :
First, we do B alone in one half the value is ×/2 and the actual time of B is 1/40, so, x/2×1/40 = ×/80.
B half value = x/80.
Step 2 :
A and B work, take lcm of 60,40 = 120.
It looks like 2/120 + 3/120 = 5/120 => 1/24.
Then implement the A and B work half x/2 × 1/24 = x/48.
A and B work half value = x/48.
Step 3 :
Adding your half's answers B half = x/80 and A&B half = x/48.
Total work done = 1,
So, x/80 + x/48 =1,
Take lcm on both sides, don't forget to take lcm, lcm of 80,48 = 240
3x/120 + 5x/240 = 8x/240 = 1.
Then simplify,
8x/240 = 1.
x = 240/8 => 30 minutes.
A = 1/60 min
B = 1/40 min.
B works alone half time means 1/2, no confusion, put x/2.
A and B both work together that also one half puts another x/2.
Step 1 :
First, we do B alone in one half the value is ×/2 and the actual time of B is 1/40, so, x/2×1/40 = ×/80.
B half value = x/80.
Step 2 :
A and B work, take lcm of 60,40 = 120.
It looks like 2/120 + 3/120 = 5/120 => 1/24.
Then implement the A and B work half x/2 × 1/24 = x/48.
A and B work half value = x/48.
Step 3 :
Adding your half's answers B half = x/80 and A&B half = x/48.
Total work done = 1,
So, x/80 + x/48 =1,
Take lcm on both sides, don't forget to take lcm, lcm of 80,48 = 240
3x/120 + 5x/240 = 8x/240 = 1.
Then simplify,
8x/240 = 1.
x = 240/8 => 30 minutes.
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SANJAY PAHADE said:
1 decade ago
A simple method for solving this problem without formula :
Firstly, For a 1/2 Minute i.e half-minute Pipe B is used so,
Now, remaining part of tank should be filled by both A and B in remaining 1/2 i.e half minute.
For which combined capacity of A and B have to used as both are working simultaneously.
Finally,
We have to add tank filled by B alone and A+B together.
So, required answer is 30 mins respectively.
Firstly, For a 1/2 Minute i.e half-minute Pipe B is used so,
1 1 1
- * - = -
2 40 80
Now, remaining part of tank should be filled by both A and B in remaining 1/2 i.e half minute.
For which combined capacity of A and B have to used as both are working simultaneously.
1 [ 1 1 ] 1
- * [ - + - ] = -
2 [ 40 80 ] 48
Finally,
We have to add tank filled by B alone and A+B together.
1 1 128
- + - = ---
80 48 3840
1
= -
30
So, required answer is 30 mins respectively.
Sameer kapoore said:
1 decade ago
Mine answer is coming 32 mins. By LCM method I am getting different answer.
A = 60 min.
B = 40 min.
By taking LCM total work is 120 unit. (say litre).
So a fills the tank in 120/60 = 2 litre/min.
B does it in 120/40 = 3 litre/min.
Together 5 litres. So time taken by both a and b to complete work is 120/5 = 24 min.
Now half tank means capacity of 60 litres. (60+60=120).
Now half the tank is filled by a+b=60/ (3+2) =12 min.
And half the tank is filled by b only = 60/3=20 min.
So therefore, 12+20=32 min.
A = 60 min.
B = 40 min.
By taking LCM total work is 120 unit. (say litre).
So a fills the tank in 120/60 = 2 litre/min.
B does it in 120/40 = 3 litre/min.
Together 5 litres. So time taken by both a and b to complete work is 120/5 = 24 min.
Now half tank means capacity of 60 litres. (60+60=120).
Now half the tank is filled by a+b=60/ (3+2) =12 min.
And half the tank is filled by b only = 60/3=20 min.
So therefore, 12+20=32 min.
Sagar P. said:
5 years ago
LCM(60,40) = 120.
Suppose the capacity of the tanker is 120litre.
Then, the quantity filled by pipe A in 1 min=120/60= 2 litres.
The quantity filled by pipe B in 1 min=120/40=3 litre.
The quantity filled by pipe A and B together in 1 min= 2 + 3 = 5 litre.
Suppose the tanker is filled in x minutes.
Then, to fill the tanker from the empty state, B is used for x/2 minutes and A &B together is used for the rest x/2 minutes.
3x/2 + 5x/2 = 120;
x/2(3+5) = 120;
8x/2 = 120
X = 30.
Required time =30 minutes.
Suppose the capacity of the tanker is 120litre.
Then, the quantity filled by pipe A in 1 min=120/60= 2 litres.
The quantity filled by pipe B in 1 min=120/40=3 litre.
The quantity filled by pipe A and B together in 1 min= 2 + 3 = 5 litre.
Suppose the tanker is filled in x minutes.
Then, to fill the tanker from the empty state, B is used for x/2 minutes and A &B together is used for the rest x/2 minutes.
3x/2 + 5x/2 = 120;
x/2(3+5) = 120;
8x/2 = 120
X = 30.
Required time =30 minutes.
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Salini said:
1 decade ago
By LCM method I am getting different answer.
A = 60 min.
B = 40 min.
By taking LCM total work is 120 unit.
So A does 120/60 = 2 unit.
B does 120/40 = 3 unit.
Together 5 unit so time taken by both A and B to complete work is 120/5 = 24 min.
It means B will work alone for 12 min and work done by B is 12x3 = 36 unit.
Remaining work is 120-36 = 84 unit which is done by both A and B so 84/5 = 16.8 min.
Then total time taken is = 12+16.8 = 28.8 min.
A = 60 min.
B = 40 min.
By taking LCM total work is 120 unit.
So A does 120/60 = 2 unit.
B does 120/40 = 3 unit.
Together 5 unit so time taken by both A and B to complete work is 120/5 = 24 min.
It means B will work alone for 12 min and work done by B is 12x3 = 36 unit.
Remaining work is 120-36 = 84 unit which is done by both A and B so 84/5 = 16.8 min.
Then total time taken is = 12+16.8 = 28.8 min.
Ankitkumar Dandiwala said:
2 years ago
Cross-check:
TA = 60 min.
TB = 40 min.
As per the given statement, A and B run together for 15 min (=Answer/2=30/2), and B runs alone for the next 15 mins (=Answer/2=30/2).
P1 = Part filled by first 15 min = 15*(1/TA+1/TB) = 15*(1/60+1/40) = 15*5/120=5/8.
P2 = Part filled by next 15 min = 15*(1/TB) = 15*(1/40) = 3/8.
Full tank = summation of both parts = P1+P2 = 5/8+3/8 = 1.
Hence it is proved that the given explanation is correct.
TA = 60 min.
TB = 40 min.
As per the given statement, A and B run together for 15 min (=Answer/2=30/2), and B runs alone for the next 15 mins (=Answer/2=30/2).
P1 = Part filled by first 15 min = 15*(1/TA+1/TB) = 15*(1/60+1/40) = 15*5/120=5/8.
P2 = Part filled by next 15 min = 15*(1/TB) = 15*(1/40) = 3/8.
Full tank = summation of both parts = P1+P2 = 5/8+3/8 = 1.
Hence it is proved that the given explanation is correct.
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Ram Deen said:
6 years ago
A = 60 min.
B = 40 min.
Total work= 120.
The capacity of A and B is 2 and 3 respectively.
In Q, is clear that B is used for half the time, so we will take 20 min.
So, in 20 min B will fill = 60 work.
Remaining work = 60.
Now, both A and B is used for other half means is clear that for other half work that is 60.
So the capacity of A+B=5.
Time = 60/5 = 12 min.
Total time = 20 + 12 = 32 min.
B = 40 min.
Total work= 120.
The capacity of A and B is 2 and 3 respectively.
In Q, is clear that B is used for half the time, so we will take 20 min.
So, in 20 min B will fill = 60 work.
Remaining work = 60.
Now, both A and B is used for other half means is clear that for other half work that is 60.
So the capacity of A+B=5.
Time = 60/5 = 12 min.
Total time = 20 + 12 = 32 min.
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VAISHNAVI.N said:
1 decade ago
Its very simple if we calculate as follows,
Total work done by A+B in 1 minute=1/40+1/60 = 1/24.
Total work done by B alone in 1 minute = 1/40.
1/2 work done by A+B in 1 minute = 1/24*1/2 = 1/48.
1/2 work done by B alone in 1 minute = 1/40*1/2 = 1/80.
Total 1/2 work done by (A+B) and B in 1 minute = 1/80+1/48 = 8/240 = 1/30.
So the total work done by 1/2(A+B) and 1/2B = 30 minutes.
Total work done by A+B in 1 minute=1/40+1/60 = 1/24.
Total work done by B alone in 1 minute = 1/40.
1/2 work done by A+B in 1 minute = 1/24*1/2 = 1/48.
1/2 work done by B alone in 1 minute = 1/40*1/2 = 1/80.
Total 1/2 work done by (A+B) and B in 1 minute = 1/80+1/48 = 8/240 = 1/30.
So the total work done by 1/2(A+B) and 1/2B = 30 minutes.
(1)
Bibin said:
7 years ago
LCM of 60 and 40 is 120.(total work=120).
So the efficiencies are 2 and 3.
A:B=2:3.
A+B=5 (combined efficiency).
Then consider the total time required to fill the tank as X.
B is used for half of the time and then A and B fill it together for the other half.then we can write as,
(X/2) x 5 + (X/2) x 3 = 120.
By solving this equation you will get X = 30.
So the efficiencies are 2 and 3.
A:B=2:3.
A+B=5 (combined efficiency).
Then consider the total time required to fill the tank as X.
B is used for half of the time and then A and B fill it together for the other half.then we can write as,
(X/2) x 5 + (X/2) x 3 = 120.
By solving this equation you will get X = 30.
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