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Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 1)
Directions to Solve
In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.
Give answer:
- (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
- (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
- (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
- (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
- (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.
1.
Statements: Some actors are singers. All the singers are dancers.
Conclusions:
- Some actors are dancers.
- No singer is actor.
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Discussion:
78 comments Page 2 of 8.
WAHEED said:
7 years ago
How first conclusion follows? I think either is the right answer.
(20)
Tusar said:
8 years ago
@All.
Always solve from the conclusion. If both the statement have a common and all is attached with that common word. Then conclusion true. Ex here common is a singer. And singer Se pehele all he. So directly some actors are dancers. Next, for conclusion 2 we can't draw -ve conclusion from positive statements. So false.
Always solve from the conclusion. If both the statement have a common and all is attached with that common word. Then conclusion true. Ex here common is a singer. And singer Se pehele all he. So directly some actors are dancers. Next, for conclusion 2 we can't draw -ve conclusion from positive statements. So false.
(8)
Huraira said:
9 years ago
@SUMAN
you repeated
B+A = Y.
B +B = no conclusion.
B+Z = Y.
B+Y= no conclusion.
B+A = Z.
B +B = Y.
B+Z = no conclusion.
B+Y= no conclusion.
Which combination is now correct?
you repeated
B+A = Y.
B +B = no conclusion.
B+Z = Y.
B+Y= no conclusion.
B+A = Z.
B +B = Y.
B+Z = no conclusion.
B+Y= no conclusion.
Which combination is now correct?
(3)
Suman said:
9 years ago
Let A- all (eg- all trees are dog.)
B- all not (eg- all trees are not dog.)
Z- some (eg- some trees are dog.)
Y- some not(eg- some trees are not dog.)
A can be converted to Z(eg- All trees are dog. conversion- some trees are dogs. (or) some dogs are tree)
B can be converted to B or Y((eg- All trees are not dog. conversion- all dogs are not tree. (or) All trees are not dog))
Z can be converted to z(eg- some trees are dogs.conversion- some dogs are trees.)
Y has no conclusion.
Combination :
A+A = Z.
A +B = Z.
A+Z = no conclusion.
A+Y= no conclusion.
B+A = Y.
B +B = no conclusion.
B+Z = Y.
B+Y= no conclusion.
B+A = Z.
B +B = Y.
B+Z = no conclusion.
B+Y= no conclusion.
Y + (A, B, Z)= no conclusion.
B- all not (eg- all trees are not dog.)
Z- some (eg- some trees are dog.)
Y- some not(eg- some trees are not dog.)
A can be converted to Z(eg- All trees are dog. conversion- some trees are dogs. (or) some dogs are tree)
B can be converted to B or Y((eg- All trees are not dog. conversion- all dogs are not tree. (or) All trees are not dog))
Z can be converted to z(eg- some trees are dogs.conversion- some dogs are trees.)
Y has no conclusion.
Combination :
A+A = Z.
A +B = Z.
A+Z = no conclusion.
A+Y= no conclusion.
B+A = Y.
B +B = no conclusion.
B+Z = Y.
B+Y= no conclusion.
B+A = Z.
B +B = Y.
B+Z = no conclusion.
B+Y= no conclusion.
Y + (A, B, Z)= no conclusion.
(3)
Kamal said:
9 years ago
Hi,
Can anyone explain it in short? Because I couldn't get the "some are not " model.
Statements:
All squares are circles.
All circles are units.
No circle is a meter.
Conclusions:
I. Some units which are not circles can be meters.
II. Some squares being meters is a possibility.
Anyone, please explain how to solve this using formula table.
Can anyone explain it in short? Because I couldn't get the "some are not " model.
Statements:
All squares are circles.
All circles are units.
No circle is a meter.
Conclusions:
I. Some units which are not circles can be meters.
II. Some squares being meters is a possibility.
Anyone, please explain how to solve this using formula table.
(2)
Ravi kumar said:
9 years ago
2nd Venn diagram shows that all actors are dancers. Then, why option A is correct?
(2)
Roshan said:
10 years ago
In second diagram. All actors are dancer comes out. And in first some actors are dancers. If the statement is not satisfying both the diagrams, then how we can say one is correct?
Please explain.
Please explain.
(1)
Dipesh said:
10 years ago
Please, anybody can explain this clearly? I am confused.
Shikha said:
10 years ago
@Deepthi.
Your concept is wrong. No need to find out conclusion, they already given in the question. In this chapter, the statement is given and the conclusion is also given we prove that conclusion is wrong or not. If the conclusion is wrong then you are right, or conclusion is right then you are wrong.
Notes: [ (All=some not, not) (some=no) (no=all, some) ]. Always remember this, it used in conclusion to proving right ya wrong. This is your opposite words.
For example statement 1: All hands are arms, some hands are skins.
Conclusion 1: some skins are arms.
2: All skins are arms.
Answer: draw a diagram for the help of statement. And prove the statement for the help of conclusion.
1: Some skins are arms (some change into no).
2: all skins are arms (all change into not / some not).
So, conclusion 1st is the correct answer.
Thank you, everybody.
Shikha.
Your concept is wrong. No need to find out conclusion, they already given in the question. In this chapter, the statement is given and the conclusion is also given we prove that conclusion is wrong or not. If the conclusion is wrong then you are right, or conclusion is right then you are wrong.
Notes: [ (All=some not, not) (some=no) (no=all, some) ]. Always remember this, it used in conclusion to proving right ya wrong. This is your opposite words.
For example statement 1: All hands are arms, some hands are skins.
Conclusion 1: some skins are arms.
2: All skins are arms.
Answer: draw a diagram for the help of statement. And prove the statement for the help of conclusion.
1: Some skins are arms (some change into no).
2: all skins are arms (all change into not / some not).
So, conclusion 1st is the correct answer.
Thank you, everybody.
Shikha.
Vidhya said:
10 years ago
Please explain the UP-UN METHOD in detail.
(1)
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