Logical Reasoning - Statement and Conclusion - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Statement and Conclusion - Section 1 (Q.No. 18)
Directions to Solve

In each question below is given a statement followed by two conclusions numbered I and II. You have to assume everything in the statement to be true, then consider the two conclusions together and decide which of them logically follows beyond a reasonable doubt from the information given in the statement.

Give answer:

  • (A) If only conclusion I follows
  • (B) If only conclusion II follows
  • (C) If either I or II follows
  • (D) If neither I nor II follows and
  • (E) If both I and II follow.


18.

Statements: All those political prisoners were released on bail who had gone to jail for reasons other than political dharnas. Bail was not granted to persons involved in murders.

Conclusions:

  1. No political - prisoner had committed murder.
  2. Some politicians were not arrested.
Only conclusion I follows
Only conclusion II follows
Either I or II follows
Neither I nor II follows
Both I and II follow
Answer: Option
Explanation:
According to the statement, the political prisoners can be divided into two groups - those who were released and those who were put in jail for political dharnas. However, no person involved in murder was released. This means that no political prisoner had committed murder. So, I follows. Clearly, II is not directly related to the statement and does not follow.
Discussion:
24 comments Page 1 of 3.

Tania said:   1 decade ago
"no person involved in murder was released. This means that no political prisoner had committed murder. "
I didnt follow this part of the explanation.....
Plz help me out....

Sch203 said:   1 decade ago
I too didn't understand. I think there is some error. It's mentioned 'All those political prisoners....' and not 'All the political prisoners...'
Tania what's ur opinion.

Aabhas said:   1 decade ago
What if some political prisoners have committed both murder and political dharnas ?

Rameshwar said:   1 decade ago
Political prisoners have committed only dharnas---they will get bail.

2nd thing political prisoners did not committed murder (stick to the statement don't imagine).

The prisoner who murdered won't get bail.

All political prisoners got bail, it means no one had committed muder.

Prathmesh said:   1 decade ago
@ Rameshwar

Political prisoners have committed dharnas as well as some other crimes
but those who committed political dharnas were not granted bail.

This can be implied from the statement first part and if this was only given then we could have mark conclusion 1 ie A follows. But the second statement "Bail was not granted to persons involved in murders, it gives us a probabilty that there can be political prisoners that have commited murder but not granted bail.

So conclusion I does not follow.

Can yo Justify my expalin to be wrong for not marking same answer mentioned???

Swarna said:   1 decade ago
I Can't accept option A. As mentioned above by @Sch203, It is all those politicians and not all the politicians so how can we say that politicians are not involved in murders. So according to me option D will follow.

Yash said:   1 decade ago
Explanation to the Answer:

Political prisoners who were in jail were there due to:

1. Political Dharnas.
2. Other reasons.

All the political prisoners in the category 'other reasons' were released.

Now, in this whole transaction, the people who had committed murder were not released. Now if the political prisoners belonging to 'other reasons' would have committed murders they wouldn't have been released.
But all of those belonging to 'other reasons' were released.

Hence, No political - prisoner had committed murder.

Nihal said:   1 decade ago
@Yash.

Your explanation is good enough but what if Category 1 political prisoners who are retained in jail due to political dharnas were also convicted of murder?

Rim.patatree said:   1 decade ago
Its clear when the political prisoner achieved bail.

Now, if the question arise then late me clear you the answer is already in the question. "political prisoner released on bail. Bail was not granted persons involved in murder".

See, If the political prisoner was involved in murder then the correction hall will not grant the bail. Think clearly. I bet you ll get the answer all by yourselves.

Shloka sah said:   1 decade ago
But it says all those political persons who were not involved in dharnas were released on bail. This could also mean that there were some politicians who could also be in jail for murder, and hence were not given bail. I too think the answer given doesn't make sense.


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