Logical Reasoning - Logical Deduction - Discussion
Discussion Forum : Logical Deduction - Section 1 (Q.No. 5)
Directions to Solve
In each question below are given two statements followed by two conclusions numbered I and II. You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusion and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.
Give answer:
- (A) If only conclusion I follows
- (B) If only conclusion II follows
- (C) If either I or II follows
- (D) If neither I nor II follows and
- (E) If both I and II follow.
5.
Statements: Some doctors are fools. Some fools are rich.
Conclusions:
- Some doctors are rich
- Some rich are doctors.
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Since both the premises are particular, no definite conclusion follows.
Discussion:
29 comments Page 1 of 3.
Shubhangi said:
1 decade ago
The answer should be (b) that is only answer follows because going by to venn diagram.
Let doctor be the super set then all the fools come in the set of doctor but some doctors are left (because there is said some doctors are fool) and after that some fools are rich so the set of rich will come inside the set of doctor and fool (leaving some fools as not a rich person thats according to conclusion 2) so its prove that conclusion 1 is wrong and other is right.
Let doctor be the super set then all the fools come in the set of doctor but some doctors are left (because there is said some doctors are fool) and after that some fools are rich so the set of rich will come inside the set of doctor and fool (leaving some fools as not a rich person thats according to conclusion 2) so its prove that conclusion 1 is wrong and other is right.
Pradeep said:
10 years ago
By venn diagram option should be E.
If its definite answer then fine, he it says some doctors are rich. Which is possible as per venn diagram.
Venn diagram can be made in different ways, but when we say no there should be no exclusion to it. Even if once of the diagrams show an option, then we must go with it.
If its definite answer then fine, he it says some doctors are rich. Which is possible as per venn diagram.
Venn diagram can be made in different ways, but when we say no there should be no exclusion to it. Even if once of the diagrams show an option, then we must go with it.
Riddle42 said:
9 years ago
D is perfectly right- Neither I nor II follows. We should know for sure, that the conclusion follows all the time. We can not say for sure, that some of the doctors are rich, nor that some rich are doctors because the probability is really low that the doctors who are fools are also rich.
(1)
Subham said:
6 years ago
The answer should be E as it completely goes with Venn Diagram.
Here both the statement are getting into one conclusion that some fools can be doctors and they can also be rich. The answer mentioned it is incorrect and it is not getting corrected after having a discussion in the forum.
Here both the statement are getting into one conclusion that some fools can be doctors and they can also be rich. The answer mentioned it is incorrect and it is not getting corrected after having a discussion in the forum.
(3)
Piyanka roy said:
1 decade ago
What if the conclusion is particular neg and the both options given is also perticular neg ? for example :
Statement:
No crystal is stone
Some stones are diamonds
Conclusion:
1) Some diamonds are not crystal
2) All crystals are not diamonds
Statement:
No crystal is stone
Some stones are diamonds
Conclusion:
1) Some diamonds are not crystal
2) All crystals are not diamonds
Nilesh khatri. said:
8 years ago
Some doctor is fools and some fools are rich.
But it's not mentioned which part of fools are rich so it can be concluded that some doctors who are fools also can be part of fools that are rich.
So, I think the answer can be the option (A).
But it's not mentioned which part of fools are rich so it can be concluded that some doctors who are fools also can be part of fools that are rich.
So, I think the answer can be the option (A).
(1)
Piyush Baghla said:
1 decade ago
By going through rules>complementary pair>case-7
Some doctors are rich is complementary to no doctor is rich--it means that the statement"some doctors are rich" may or may not follow.
That is why neither of them is correct.
Some doctors are rich is complementary to no doctor is rich--it means that the statement"some doctors are rich" may or may not follow.
That is why neither of them is correct.
Arun said:
1 decade ago
@Shubangi.
You are considering one of the possible venn diagrams. However, there will be three possible venn diagrams for the problem.
And according to them, the answer will be (C).
You are considering one of the possible venn diagrams. However, there will be three possible venn diagrams for the problem.
And according to them, the answer will be (C).
Wil said:
1 decade ago
At first, I thought it might be C. But we cannot actually determine if either one is true and since we cannot determine that, we must choose that they are both wrong.
Vipin kumar said:
10 years ago
We can solve without venn diagram, so fools is mediator in statement first and second statement, so conclusion will be "some doctors are rich".
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