Logical Reasoning - Logical Deduction - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Logical Deduction - Section 3 (Q.No. 18)
Directions to Solve

In each of the questions below are given three statements followed by three conclusions numbered I, II and III, You have to take the given statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from the commonly known facts. Read all the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the given statements disregarding commonly known facts.


18.

Statements: All trees are flowers. No flower is fruit. All branches are fruits.

Conclusions:

  1. Some branches are trees.
  2. No fruit is tree.
  3. No tree is branch.

None follows
Only either I or III follows
Only II follows
Only either I or III, and II follow
None of these
Answer: Option
Explanation:

All trees are flowers. No flower is fruit.

Since both the premises are universal and one premise is negative, the conclusion must be universal negative (E-type) and should not contain the middle term. So, it follows that 'No tree is fruit'. II is the converse of this conclusion and so it follows.

All branches are fruits. No flower is fruit.

Since both the premises are universal and one premise is negative, the conclusion must be universal negative (E-type) and should not contain the middle term. So, it follows that 'No branch is flower'.

All trees are flowers. No branch is tree.

As discussed above, it follows that 'No tree is branch'. So, III follows.

Hence, both II and III follow.

Discussion:
11 comments Page 1 of 2.

Pratik said:   7 years ago
I and III would form a complementary pair if there was no conclusion about those two terms. However "No flower is fruit. All branches are fruits. " implies "No branches are flowers" which is converse of "No flowers are branches".

This, along with the first sentence implies "No trees are branches" or "No branches are trees. " This is the same as III. So, we do have a definite conclusion here regarding extreme terms. So, I is always false and III is always true. That is why either option does not hold here.

Shubham khatri said:   8 years ago
Answer must be d.

Ashok said:   8 years ago
By Venn diagram method no flower is fruit means flowers should not combine with fruits that's why none follows is the answer.

Bawa said:   9 years ago
If 2 and 3 follow then the answer must be d. Am I correct?

Chacho said:   1 decade ago
@Santhosh.

If this is the case. What about 20th question? There 1 and 3 are taken as complementary even through they have combinations different?

Santhosh said:   1 decade ago
@Dipak.

The combination is taken wrong in the Answer.

Make it as.

All trees are flowers. No branch is Flower.

Since both the premises are universal and one premise is negative, the conclusion must be universal negative (E-type) and should not contain the middle term. So, it follows that 'No branch is tree'.

That's it.

Santhosh said:   1 decade ago
@Mayank.

I and III are not complementary pairs.
Because they do not contain the same extreme terms.

If the conclusion was given as.
Some branches are trees.

No branch is tree (given: no tree is branch).
It can be considered, but here in this question, it is not given.

That's it!

Vikash said:   1 decade ago
I and III are complementary pairs.

Nomadsena said:   1 decade ago
I & III are complementary pairs why is it not considered?

Dipak said:   1 decade ago
From where did "no branch is tree" came.


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