Women are not fit for Defense Services

On a candor note, one may think that women are not fit the military but we cannot simply assume it without looking at some facts, to begin with men or boys are actually are stronger than women ie the upper body strength in a male is 55% more than a female and 27% more strength in the male low body (which is a SCIENTIFIC fact that's been proven over and over, however, there may be some exceptions).

Furthermore, the military has standards which everyone needs to meet (men and women both) in order to enlist or to make it to field combat duty, which begins at the basic training boot camp, with a series of obstacles and a bare minimum required to pass, over the years almost all of the men were able to pass the minimum while the majority of the women were not able to, this escalated into blaming the military that the basic training obstacles are difficult for women and are keeping them from perusing their military carriers, that the bare minimum was lowered for them so that they could pass, which still wasn\'t a bright idea since even then a good number of women still failed.

Adding to that United States Marine Corps study experiment conducted proved that compared to female units, the all-male units had a noticeable difference in their performance they were faster in each tactical movement, had better accuracy, were quicker to register more hits on target, and were able to overcome obstacles and evacuate casualties without any difficulty, with women who are the above-average performing females were only equal to the average performing males (However this can vary from individual to Individual) That being said, Yes! women have to be allowed in military positions. HR, telecommunication officers, radar operators, technical services etc are great for women (also same for some men). However, almost all men in basic training were good at essential jobs which require peak physical strength, endurance, speed, agility in order not to jeopardize other unit members with subpar performance, because life literally hangs in the balance so be it a man or a woman if they can carry a 6 foot 200 pound wounded grunt with an additional 80-pound gear while taking enemy fire, and being able to fight off in a hand to hand combat against a trained enemy killer who won't discriminate against gender then whoever, man or women that can meet this standard are most welcomed to the front lines.

But otherwise having women in the military with lowered standards is a hyper hazard and the delusional feministic indoctrination will end up putting soldiers in body bags.

When it comes to about women our country becomes so soft and became emotional for the women. Women are not fit for the army. NOT AT ALL. Many of you take this wrong.

But I am in the army I know what women do here firstly army duty is to provide security to the nation whereas in Indian army women officer need security For herself if she can't walk alone without buddy Then How would they defend the country.

Secondly, in the army, military training is compulsory for everyone for his own safety at least And these women don't how to fire they can't hold Weapon the because of the Heaviness. But they are expert in one thing how to do a party in officer mess, drink alcohol, smoking, sex with colleagues.

Military nurses don't have any relation to military drill and military operations and they are getting more MSP from soldiers why?

Have you Ever seen any para commando lady officer in India? Who comes out in republic day parade? NO.

Because they don't have guts.

They care about their beauty and skin maintenance. I am in army medical corps I have saw behaviour of nurses and doctors toward the patient. The patient is crying from pain but madam are busy in her gossips. No one shows sympathy for patients.

And lady doctors don't know anything. Bloody third class doctors.

And some people are here justifying the women.

You know compared to male officers women officer do more discrimination in the army. They treat soldiers as a servant and obviously this is India everyone listens to women so the helpless soldiers are not able to do anything.

I want to make many of you clear that in today's world no one joined armed forces for his country they are Used to be unemployed that why they Found defence last option. Because it is easy to enrol compared to other city services whoever it is male, or female and they are serving for the nation and giving their life because army rules are very strict. You have to do it or otherwise ready for punishment so obviously they do their duty and during duty, they got killed and media make them a hero. Government have Army so many powers. So army has authority to punish the defaulters and army person can't seek help from police or court. So army person uses to keep in fear because they are not educated enough to fight for their right.

So take this out of your minds the era has changed So the women have changed.

As it is rightly said that when a man is educated and empowered he is educated for himself but when a woman is educated and empowered there education can bring changes in the whole family and society. People used to think earlier that girls cannot do physical activities but you can see the most tiring physical activities are done by the women in our families. So they are never less than any male. As far as strength and endurance are concerned the pain they can endure can't be endured by a male as during pregnancy they endure pain which is equivalent to breaking of 36 bones at the same time.

So we cannot say that women are any less than men. We should neither sympathize nor should we discriminate to women. Everyone should be given equal chance in the recruitment process and if he or she is capable then that person without any doubt be given the responsibility of the job either it is any sector.

Earlier girls were not allowed to go out of their homes and play and if this would have been the case today we would not have got the medals in the last Olympics. We all know that the last Olympics were dominated by Indian women athletes. I want to ask those who are against women's participation in defense, doesn't sports require physical strength. Yes, it does.

Our society is shaped by our economy. We required women in IT sector we opened doors for them, whenever we needed them in any particular field we welcomed them and talked about women empowerment but why don't we talk about their empowerment in defense. Don't we need them there?

As an engineer, I want to say that when we develop some product we also want to have women engineers in our team so that while designing we don't miss the advice and creativity of half of our population. We can only prosper when half of our population is given equal opportunity and they have their representation in every field. We respect both one who stays at home and take care of us and one who goes out and fight and stay strong in this make dominant society.

Being woman in itself is a great achievement. There is hardly any field which is entirely for women or entirely for men. It's the society's views regarding women which makes us discuss such very questions about "if women are fit for army or not". My question to such a society is that what makes a girl any less than a boy? Surely the two genders have a different construct altogether, but combination of both is required to make any field excel in itself. There exists a very less percentage of girls in the Indian armed forces, this is mainly because our society is setting bogus standards and illogical rules for the women to abide by and teaching our girls "learned helplessness". I use this term because our society thinks that protecting the so-called "second gender" (women) unnecessarily is a very crucial thing to do in order to prove the masculinity of the so-called "first gender" (men) and their first place on this very land. By doing so we are spoiling our female generation by letting them accept the dependency upon the society for their very existence. Being a girl I accept that I need to lift heavy stuff, do the repairing of petty items and also be ready to help my parents and my country financially and emotionally whenever they need me. Answering this question, I also want to pose the same answer to other questions of inequality on the basis of gender as well. It is this difference because of which we celebrate women's day. The day when there would be absolute equality, we would not need such a day. We females are distinct from males in our qualities and what I know is, where one quality of male might not fit suitably, the quality of the female would do wonders at the same place and vice versa. Girls have the equal right to serve their nation as any boy might wish. After all, we all were given the same body of a human being, the difference was created by the mere choice of this society.

Hi friends,

After reading the discussion thread, I can see the following main points.

1. Women should be provided equal rights.

I agree but Constitutionally and manipulatively they possess more than that today.

2. Women are physically weak.

Not true, women are naturally stronger in weight lifting capacity. That's another story that majority is not interested in physical fitness.

3. Mental sharpness.

They are at par if not lower, can be seen in day to day life.

4. Quality of Armed Forces might get lowered.

Only if Skill measurement criteria are relaxed like it is now in case of Reservation Quotas, Or in non defense fields where being a girl has an advantage of extra points in competitive examinations.

5. Men might get pushed to war fields with women using their gender in getting office postings away from war zones.

This is indeed one big possibility, like Quota units and personnel with links to high posts, although Army personnel can shed better light on this. In Civilian Industries, it is pretty visible how easy it is for a female (exceptions are always there).

Trends of neglect towards males is becoming more evident with all the perks being diverted for fairer gender, may it be scholarships or jobs. Yes, jealousy towards females is also rising because of their rise out of ditches but it is also true that males get much more manipulated by females in work places or any Co-ed institution.

A coin has two sides, generalizing an individual incident is not rational but so is the case with neglecting general incidents occurring all around. Male fraternity is not mature enough to see through the deceit played by opposite gender because of the long absence of females from open playing turfs and that coupled with jealousy creates a hostile environment.

Okay, I am not in the Indian army, so I won't talk about death in Indian army. But however strong you are one bullet in the head is enough to kill you, which is usually how humans fight in war. If somebody is given a gun with some training, I am quite sure they can perform the task unless they die or run away (in which case they die either way).

This country is being ran by two genders, its not up to one to decide whether the other will do something or not. Some common problems that might occur, is that they will attempt to have physical relationship in the refugees during a war or even rape which in both cases makes it miserable to fight, there should be a death penalty for both the cases in order to stop such things from happening.

What happens when you go to the battleground, people die, no matter how powerful you are there is a major chance that you will die. Many men have died, many more will die, whats wrong if women dies too alongside them. Death does bring victory, if we need more death for the country to live, whats wrong.

I think I definitely agree that women are fit for defense forces, or army, or navy or anything that brings the gun with it but that doesn't change a thing. I too am applying for the Indian navy, we will see what happens. Women deserves everything that a man gets in his life even death, only thing that Indian women don't deserve is respect and love, because they don't return the favor.

Don't believe me, read all the comments in the thread and analyze yourself, still don't believe me read the newspapers, watch television, no, go on social media sites. Thing is you don't want to believe, What! you don't like me, well I don't like you either, but at least I support the thread, so don't sue me okay.

NO DOUBT.

Women are fit for defense services. In the 21st century, women are in each and every field and especially men cannot state this bullshit reasons that women have to look after the family. What will happen if women gets employed in defense service? someone has rightly said that one educated women teaches the generation, where we can't see women - in hospitals, civil services, police line, school, and many more, the fields are uncountable. Today it really hurts to listen that men's mind are still obsolete. We cannot change someone's perception or mentality but I have one question to ask from the male gender of our nation that -how they are sure that children will learn good things if there mother will be with them, if mothers are with them even after that they will be spoiled, if someone has to go in a wrong path they will go even they are with their parents or not, so I request the male genders to please eradicate such kind of bullshits from your respective minds that women can't do anything or they can only be showcased at homes and also women do work much-much better than men although earlier man used to be the sole earner but now women are taking up their place. I also want to include the very famous statements of the boys in our country that women are gossip queens, they like to have parties, they think men are their slaves but don't forget gentlemen advance up your mind or thinking because if you do think like this it showcases your background and your ethics an respect women because FUTURE IS WOMEN AND WOMEN IS FUTURE.

Women and army. Only 1 woman in 1 lack can compare and compete with just a simple man when comes to instant decision making, fight, protection of own and others, and handling of weapons. That one woman will never join the army as she has already hope in every field better than army as army is total waste as career for women because she can not mingle up with counterparts. She can not talk everything, no masti with male, no bath, no beer, no sleep with male, no ideas sharing, no nude videos watching, no sad moment sharing, she can not even change her cloth.

Thus women who are joining army are total waste, they are given concessions in everything like running, jumping, sit ups, push ups, and almost everything.

Guys in army had to watch their tongue as they can not talk shit when a woman is around because who knows when she raises an alarm off in the name of women safety, forget about pinching and pushing her in fun.

What I have shared is only non-combat activity and when it comes to combat activity and you are in no man's land, foreign land, full blood shading, just forget about women there. The army then won't be fighting a war. Just forget about war women can not even street fight with guys. Women are best for school, banks, factories, computers. But please spare army. Army girls are not Olympics winners you must figure that out and even they are they are not competing with male.

Oh I see there's a lot of hue and cry on this topic. What the hell has happened to the mentality of we Indians. There are big-big posts Saying "NO" to women in defense services. Excuse me?

So Guys let me put my opinion (a brief one).

See, The thing is everyone doesn't have equal endurance, courage, determination and a heart to confront death with close quarters (be it a man or a woman) but there are some who are born with it or acquire it with time. Although girls are said to be quite delicate, but mind it, not all. There are unbeatable women in every nook and corner of the country. Although not all can be able to serve on the country frontiers, but there are some who could and will (sometimes even better than men).

You couldn't confiscate there right to do something for the nation through muscle power. What is wrong if someone who has the courage, will, potential wants to serve the country! How does gender come in between? If, They can qualify the harsh training that men undergo, then why the hell, could they be stopped from entering the defense services.

So you see of course, women are can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with men. The question is totally senseless whether women are fit for defense services or not? Anyone here has full rights to agree or disagree with my opinion (you see I don't deny your rights!) :).

Women in army as soldiers is not a new idea. Since time immemorial tough scarce thee have been female warriors. With liberation in prevailing gender roles, archaeologist are uncovering more and more evidence of women warriors.

Society does restrict women as has been stated clearly and argued correctly in previous discussions. There is absolutely no doubt about the fact that women can accomplish themselves in non combative departments and there are many of them in defence services. Its the combative department where women are not recruited. And mind it, that its not in vain.

Women are not physically as strenuous as men, its basic biology and combative are where physical strength and capabilities are as important as mental and emotional strength and that's where women lack behind.

The social environment further amplify this problem. You can take any street sport in any colony of our country less than 5 percent girls participate in sports making them weaker (physically that is). However that doesn't mean women can't be recruited for combative, I being a taekwondo player myself can say thus that with training, which has to be harder than that of men.

More than that there is a need for little princess of homes to come out on street and play hard. Its hard but not impossible.