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17.
Which component is of the wrong value?


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Bruhmagupta said:
4 years ago
Total power reading of the wattmeter is 9.408.
If you solve for the individual powers in the branches:
P = V^2/R.
P1 = 2.304W , P2 = 1.152W , P3 = 0.768W &, P4 = 0.576W.
If you get the total power:
P1+P2+P3+P4 = 4.8 W which is smaller than the reading in the ammeter which definitely tells us that something is wrong with the circuit.
Now since there are ammeters connected in between the branches we can check if the individual values of branch currents match the readings.
First in R2, I2 = 48/2000 = 24mA.
In R3, I3 = 48/3000 = 16mA.
In R4, I4 = 48/4000 = 12mA.
From the Ammeter Connected in-branch R4 we can confirm that it is correct since it has the same reading of 0.012 or 12mA.
From the Ammeter Connection in-branch R2 the reading is 0.052 A or 52mA since we know that I2 = 24mA, via Kirchoff's Current Law 52mA=24mA+ I , I is the current that would go to the branch R3. I = 28mA.
Since we know that I3 = 16mA, Via Kirchoffs Current Law we can check that, I = I3 + I4; 28mA =16mA+12mA.
Since we confirmed that I3 and I4 is correct it also implies that the current in I2 is correct therefore all of the power ratings of P2, P3, and P4 is correct thus indicating that R1 is of the wrong value.
If you solve for the individual powers in the branches:
P = V^2/R.
P1 = 2.304W , P2 = 1.152W , P3 = 0.768W &, P4 = 0.576W.
If you get the total power:
P1+P2+P3+P4 = 4.8 W which is smaller than the reading in the ammeter which definitely tells us that something is wrong with the circuit.
Now since there are ammeters connected in between the branches we can check if the individual values of branch currents match the readings.
First in R2, I2 = 48/2000 = 24mA.
In R3, I3 = 48/3000 = 16mA.
In R4, I4 = 48/4000 = 12mA.
From the Ammeter Connected in-branch R4 we can confirm that it is correct since it has the same reading of 0.012 or 12mA.
From the Ammeter Connection in-branch R2 the reading is 0.052 A or 52mA since we know that I2 = 24mA, via Kirchoff's Current Law 52mA=24mA+ I , I is the current that would go to the branch R3. I = 28mA.
Since we know that I3 = 16mA, Via Kirchoffs Current Law we can check that, I = I3 + I4; 28mA =16mA+12mA.
Since we confirmed that I3 and I4 is correct it also implies that the current in I2 is correct therefore all of the power ratings of P2, P3, and P4 is correct thus indicating that R1 is of the wrong value.
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H@RI said:
1 decade ago
Given total power=9.408
Power of r1=48/1*1000=.48mW
r2=48/2*1000=.24mW
r3=48/3*1000=.16mW
r4=48/4*1000=.12mW
Total power = 1W
But the total power given=9.408W.
ie, one resistor is wrong value.
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0.012A is current through R4
I R4= 48/4*1000 = .012A
So R4 is correct value
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0.053 is the current total through r2, r3 and r4 as branch current total.
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We know that current through R4=.012
I (R2+R3) = V/(R2*R3/R2+R3)
=48/(2*3/2+3)1000
=48/(6/5)1000
=48/1200
=.04
Then I(R2+R3+R4)= .04+.012 = .052
So that R2,R3,R4 are correct.
i.e. R1 is wrong
Power of r1=48/1*1000=.48mW
r2=48/2*1000=.24mW
r3=48/3*1000=.16mW
r4=48/4*1000=.12mW
Total power = 1W
But the total power given=9.408W.
ie, one resistor is wrong value.
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0.012A is current through R4
I R4= 48/4*1000 = .012A
So R4 is correct value
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0.053 is the current total through r2, r3 and r4 as branch current total.
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We know that current through R4=.012
I (R2+R3) = V/(R2*R3/R2+R3)
=48/(2*3/2+3)1000
=48/(6/5)1000
=48/1200
=.04
Then I(R2+R3+R4)= .04+.012 = .052
So that R2,R3,R4 are correct.
i.e. R1 is wrong
Sreeyush Sudhakaran said:
1 decade ago
P = VxIt
It = P/V = 9.408/48 = 0.196A (Total Current)
IR4 = 0.012 A (Given)
R4 = 48/0.012 = 4000 = 4K R4 is correct
IR3 = V/R3 = 48/3000 = 0.016A
IR2 = V/R2 = 48/2000 = 0.024A
IR1 = V/R1 = 48/1000 = 0.048A
IR3 = (I3-I4)
I3 = (IR3+I4)
I3 = (0.016+0.012)=0.028A
R3 = V/(I3-I4) = 48/(0.028-0.012) = 3000 = 3K R3 is correct
R2 = V/(I2-I3) = 48/(0.052-0.028) = 2000 = 2K R2 is also correct
R1 = V/(It-I2) = 48/(0.196-0.052) = 333.33ohms which is notcorrect
since R1=1000ohms = 1k from the given circuit
It = P/V = 9.408/48 = 0.196A (Total Current)
IR4 = 0.012 A (Given)
R4 = 48/0.012 = 4000 = 4K R4 is correct
IR3 = V/R3 = 48/3000 = 0.016A
IR2 = V/R2 = 48/2000 = 0.024A
IR1 = V/R1 = 48/1000 = 0.048A
IR3 = (I3-I4)
I3 = (IR3+I4)
I3 = (0.016+0.012)=0.028A
R3 = V/(I3-I4) = 48/(0.028-0.012) = 3000 = 3K R3 is correct
R2 = V/(I2-I3) = 48/(0.052-0.028) = 2000 = 2K R2 is also correct
R1 = V/(It-I2) = 48/(0.196-0.052) = 333.33ohms which is notcorrect
since R1=1000ohms = 1k from the given circuit
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Rakesh gupta said:
1 decade ago
Total current in circuit is I= p/v; 9.408/48 = 0.196.
And sum of current through r2, r3 & r3 equals to 0.052.
Current through r1 is 0.048.
And sum of the current through r1, r2, r3, and r4 is 0.102.
The difference between this is 0.196 - 0.102 = 0.092.
They r1 has wrong value r1 t = should have value 144K ohm.
And sum of current through r2, r3 & r3 equals to 0.052.
Current through r1 is 0.048.
And sum of the current through r1, r2, r3, and r4 is 0.102.
The difference between this is 0.196 - 0.102 = 0.092.
They r1 has wrong value r1 t = should have value 144K ohm.
Ayd said:
1 decade ago
Guys suppose if R1 is ok 333 ohm but problem is with R2 or R3. Then how it will be opted out which one (R2 or R3) is not correct because before R2 we have a given value 0.052 and after R3 also given 0.012 but is not given between R2 & R3.
Please explain although might not look a problem to you.
Please explain although might not look a problem to you.
Achwaria said:
1 decade ago
One way to start is that, the power comes from the smallest resistor. So, after verifying that currents through R3 and R2(0.04A) and R4(0.012) sum up to 0.052A, we search for a smaller value for R1 that could elevate the power to 9.408W which is exactly 1/3K.
Arunkumar said:
1 decade ago
I1=V/R=48/1K=48mA=0.048A
It=I1+0.052(in circuit itself)
It=0.048+0.052=0.1A
It=0.1A
P=VI
P=48*0.1=4.8W
so the watt meter reading should be 4.8 watts but the circuit shows 9.408W.
so mistake in R1.
Answer is A
It=I1+0.052(in circuit itself)
It=0.048+0.052=0.1A
It=0.1A
P=VI
P=48*0.1=4.8W
so the watt meter reading should be 4.8 watts but the circuit shows 9.408W.
so mistake in R1.
Answer is A
Ruwaid said:
1 decade ago
P = V*I .... I = P/V = 9.408/48 = 0.196A (Total Current)
Current on R1 = 0.196 - 0.052 = 0.144A
R1 = 48V/0.144A = 333.33 Ohm (Should be the correct value of R1)
Current on R1 = 0.196 - 0.052 = 0.144A
R1 = 48V/0.144A = 333.33 Ohm (Should be the correct value of R1)
@abd@ak said:
8 years ago
@H@Ri.
Your explanation is good but please tell me power = V^/R or v/r in your explanation you describe that p=v/r. Please explain anyone.
Your explanation is good but please tell me power = V^/R or v/r in your explanation you describe that p=v/r. Please explain anyone.
Manikandan said:
1 decade ago
I=v/r so I=48/1*10^3
so i=0.48
but here ammeter shows the value of 0.053
so here we have to change the value of resistance.
so i=0.48
but here ammeter shows the value of 0.053
so here we have to change the value of resistance.
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