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13.
Reduce | 128352 | to its lowest terms. |
238368 |
Answer: Option
Explanation:
128352) 238368 ( 1 128352 --------------- 110016 ) 128352 ( 1 110016 ------------------ 18336 ) 110016 ( 6 110016 ------- x ------- So, H.C.F. of 128352 and 238368 = 18336. 128352 128352 ÷ 18336 7 Therefore, ------ = -------------- = -- 238368 238368 ÷ 18336 13
Discussion:
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HEMA said:
6 years ago
For suppose let us assume their hcf be X.
Then ( X*u)/(X*v)= 128352/238368.
Where u,v are the co primes
Eg: here in case of option A : u =3 and v= 4 similarly for remaining options also..!!
Here the question gets easily solved if we verify the options as follows........
--Firstly if u observe both the options i.e A and C are satisfying the numerator and denominator.
i.e 128352 is divisible by both 3 and 7
238368 is divisible by both 4 and 13
Since both the options are satisfying we need to go for another option elimination process which will be b/w option A and C
---here if u observe clearly for option A the last digit of X in case of X*u is not satisfied by the last digit of X in case of X*...but it is not the case with option C as the last digits of both X's in case X*u and X*v are same .......
Which implies option C is the correct answer.
Note:-
**The above process won't even take more than 5min and this process reduces the complexity of solving as it won't involve finding the exact HCF value**
Then ( X*u)/(X*v)= 128352/238368.
Where u,v are the co primes
Eg: here in case of option A : u =3 and v= 4 similarly for remaining options also..!!
Here the question gets easily solved if we verify the options as follows........
--Firstly if u observe both the options i.e A and C are satisfying the numerator and denominator.
i.e 128352 is divisible by both 3 and 7
238368 is divisible by both 4 and 13
Since both the options are satisfying we need to go for another option elimination process which will be b/w option A and C
---here if u observe clearly for option A the last digit of X in case of X*u is not satisfied by the last digit of X in case of X*...but it is not the case with option C as the last digits of both X's in case X*u and X*v are same .......
Which implies option C is the correct answer.
Note:-
**The above process won't even take more than 5min and this process reduces the complexity of solving as it won't involve finding the exact HCF value**
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Punni said:
5 years ago
@All.
According to me, the solution is;
1. We simply take out the factors by just orally dividing...which i hope we can all do it at this level.
2. So 128352 = 2 x 64176.
= 2 x 2 x 32088,
= 4 x 4 x 8022,
= 16 x 2 x 4011,
= 32 x 3 x 1337,
= 32 x 3 x 7 x 191.
3. Similarly, 238368 = 4 x 59592.
= 4 x 4 x 14898,
= 16 x 2 x 7449,
= 32 x 3 x 1337,
= 32 x 3 x 13 x 191.
4. Now when we put this in form, 32 x 3 x 7 x 191/ 32 x 3 x 13 x 191 = 7/13.
Hope, this helps you all to understand.
According to me, the solution is;
1. We simply take out the factors by just orally dividing...which i hope we can all do it at this level.
2. So 128352 = 2 x 64176.
= 2 x 2 x 32088,
= 4 x 4 x 8022,
= 16 x 2 x 4011,
= 32 x 3 x 1337,
= 32 x 3 x 7 x 191.
3. Similarly, 238368 = 4 x 59592.
= 4 x 4 x 14898,
= 16 x 2 x 7449,
= 32 x 3 x 1337,
= 32 x 3 x 13 x 191.
4. Now when we put this in form, 32 x 3 x 7 x 191/ 32 x 3 x 13 x 191 = 7/13.
Hope, this helps you all to understand.
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Swap said:
6 years ago
@All.
Simply it can be solved by;
Goto the Option wise and use divisibility Rule.
1) Option "C" is Correct
Rule of Divisible 7 :- The difference the two alternate group take in 3 digits at a time should either be 0 or 7
Rule of 13 : difference between Alternate group 3digit which is Divisible 13..
As per rule 128352:-
352 224/7 = Reminder is 0
- 128
-----------
224
Therefore 7 is divisible by NUMERATOR.
(238268):-
368 130/13
- 238 (13 is divisible by NUMERATOR)
----------
130
Therefore 13 is Divisible by DENOMINATOR.
So, options C is the Right Answer.
Simply it can be solved by;
Goto the Option wise and use divisibility Rule.
1) Option "C" is Correct
Rule of Divisible 7 :- The difference the two alternate group take in 3 digits at a time should either be 0 or 7
Rule of 13 : difference between Alternate group 3digit which is Divisible 13..
As per rule 128352:-
352 224/7 = Reminder is 0
- 128
-----------
224
Therefore 7 is divisible by NUMERATOR.
(238268):-
368 130/13
- 238 (13 is divisible by NUMERATOR)
----------
130
Therefore 13 is Divisible by DENOMINATOR.
So, options C is the Right Answer.
Nazmul Hasan said:
3 years ago
@All.
These are our factors. write them as ascending order we found.
5/13, 7/13, 9/13 and 3/4.
Now we divide the given number's numerator and denominator by (5/13, 7/13, 9/13 and 3/4) these numbers' numerator and denominator. (such as given number's numerator/one of those option's numerator)
First, 5/13.
128352/5= not divisible (so the first option is out, no need to check the denominator)
Second,
7/13
128352/7 = 18,336
238368 /13 = 18, 336
So here is the answer 7/13. Because the least number is not able to divide the given number. latter is divisible by 7/13. And the next numbers are greater than 7/13.
These are our factors. write them as ascending order we found.
5/13, 7/13, 9/13 and 3/4.
Now we divide the given number's numerator and denominator by (5/13, 7/13, 9/13 and 3/4) these numbers' numerator and denominator. (such as given number's numerator/one of those option's numerator)
First, 5/13.
128352/5= not divisible (so the first option is out, no need to check the denominator)
Second,
7/13
128352/7 = 18,336
238368 /13 = 18, 336
So here is the answer 7/13. Because the least number is not able to divide the given number. latter is divisible by 7/13. And the next numbers are greater than 7/13.
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Vaishak said:
9 years ago
Guys, I have an idea over here for quick solution of this problem at first, 128352/238368 = 0.53 find this fraction value by dividing the stuff given in the question and then from all the options of answer divide each of them and find the fraction like 3/4 = 0.75 and so on for other four and finally when the decimal value matches with the above found value it is the answer i.e is 7/13 = 0.53, that's it.
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Soumen said:
1 decade ago
Simple check option A.
3*1 = 3....128352 not match the last number i.e. 3&2.
3*2 = 6....128352 not match the last number i.e. 3&2.
...
3*4 = 12...128352 now match the last number i.e. 2&2.
Now 4*4 = 16...238368 not match the last number i.e. 6&8.
Check option C.
7*6 = 42....128352 now match the last number i.e. 2&2.
Now 13*6 = 78...238368 now match the last number i.e. 8&8.
3*1 = 3....128352 not match the last number i.e. 3&2.
3*2 = 6....128352 not match the last number i.e. 3&2.
...
3*4 = 12...128352 now match the last number i.e. 2&2.
Now 4*4 = 16...238368 not match the last number i.e. 6&8.
Check option C.
7*6 = 42....128352 now match the last number i.e. 2&2.
Now 13*6 = 78...238368 now match the last number i.e. 8&8.
:-) said:
10 years ago
I hope it can help,
Let's apply divisibility rule:
Divisibility by 5: Last digit 0 or 5.
Divisibility by 9: Sum of digits = 9 or multiple of 9.
So, as per given numerators of options B and D, these conditions are not satisfied. Hence neither B nor D is answer.
Divisibility by 4: Last two digits 0 or multiple of 4 not being satisfied in option A's denominator. Hence correct option is C.
Let's apply divisibility rule:
Divisibility by 5: Last digit 0 or 5.
Divisibility by 9: Sum of digits = 9 or multiple of 9.
So, as per given numerators of options B and D, these conditions are not satisfied. Hence neither B nor D is answer.
Divisibility by 4: Last two digits 0 or multiple of 4 not being satisfied in option A's denominator. Hence correct option is C.
Shanmuk Siva Naarappa R said:
1 year ago
Just find the H.C.F. of 128352 & 238368.(Using Division method).
The HCF is 18336.
Now see the last digit of the numerator i.e., '2'. And last digit of HCF is '6'.
If 6*X=_2 i.e., either 6*2=12, or 6*7=42.
So, the numerator is either 2 or 7.
In the given options there is no number with numerator 2, But there is a number with numerator 7. i.e., option (C) 7/13.
The HCF is 18336.
Now see the last digit of the numerator i.e., '2'. And last digit of HCF is '6'.
If 6*X=_2 i.e., either 6*2=12, or 6*7=42.
So, the numerator is either 2 or 7.
In the given options there is no number with numerator 2, But there is a number with numerator 7. i.e., option (C) 7/13.
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Rosy said:
1 decade ago
238368-128352 = 110016.
128352-110016 = 18336.
110016-18336 = 91680.
18336-91680 = (negative, so not taken).
If we do 238362/91680 = 2.6(in decimal, so not taken).
And 128352/91680 =1.4 this too.
So now, take 128352/18336 = 7 and 238368/18336 = 13.
Two are integers, not in decimals.
So we take this value friends.
Now answer is 7/13.
128352-110016 = 18336.
110016-18336 = 91680.
18336-91680 = (negative, so not taken).
If we do 238362/91680 = 2.6(in decimal, so not taken).
And 128352/91680 =1.4 this too.
So now, take 128352/18336 = 7 and 238368/18336 = 13.
Two are integers, not in decimals.
So we take this value friends.
Now answer is 7/13.
Shravani janadri said:
10 years ago
It can be solved even more efficiently.
Since we have 13 in denominator among options.
238368/13 = 18336.
Now Cross check options to know unit place value.
18336*7=_______2.
18336*5=_______0.
18336*9=_______9.
And the numerator has 2 In units place so go with option 7/13.
This always works if we don't have non of the above as option.
Since we have 13 in denominator among options.
238368/13 = 18336.
Now Cross check options to know unit place value.
18336*7=_______2.
18336*5=_______0.
18336*9=_______9.
And the numerator has 2 In units place so go with option 7/13.
This always works if we don't have non of the above as option.
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