Aptitude - Pipes and Cistern - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Pipes and Cistern - General Questions (Q.No. 5)
5.
A tank is filled by three pipes with uniform flow. The first two pipes operating simultaneously fill the tank in the same time during which the tank is filled by the third pipe alone. The second pipe fills the tank 5 hours faster than the first pipe and 4 hours slower than the third pipe. The time required by the first pipe is:
6 hours
10 hours
15 hours
30 hours
Answer: Option
Explanation:

Suppose, first pipe alone takes x hours to fill the tank .

Then, second and third pipes will take (x -5) and (x - 9) hours respectively to fill the tank.

1 + 1 = 1
x (x - 5) (x - 9)

x - 5 + x = 1
x(x - 5) (x - 9)

(2x - 5)(x - 9) = x(x - 5)

x2 - 18x + 45 = 0

(x - 15)(x - 3) = 0

x = 15.    [neglecting x = 3]

Discussion:
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Ronnie said:   9 years ago
@Lavanya.

Answer is 3 mins.

Sana said:   9 years ago
Suppose, second pipe alone takes x hours to fill the tank.

Then, first pipe and third pipe will take (x + 5) and (x - 4) hours respectively to fill the tank.

1/(x+5) + 1/x = 1/(x-4)
( x + x + 5 ) / ( x^2 + 5x ) = 1/(x-4)
Srossmultiply ( 2x + 5 ) * ( x - 4 ) = 1 * (x^2 + 5x )
Solve, you get
(x - 10)(x + 2) = 0
x = 10. [neglecting x = -2]
1st pipe = x + 5 = 15 hours.

Pradhyumna said:   9 years ago
Can't we pick the 'B' to be as x and do the same things since When I did I got four first just by generally calculating it?

Anonymous said:   5 years ago
Thanks @Sai Krishna.

AK sri said:   1 week ago
@All.

We can solve by using a single condition.

Here which is efficiency of p1 +p2 =efficiency of p3--->CONDITION
To find individual efficiencies, the traditional x method = time consuming.
So opt for option verification;
On verifying option C, we meet our condition.

Option C says;
p1 takes time---------> 15 hours,
then p2 would be ---->10 hrs(15-5 as from Q 5 hours faster=earlier than p1 so subract),
p3 would be----------> 6hrs (10-4 as from question 4hrs earlier than p2).
Now, for the times of p1, p2, p3 (15,10,6) find the LCM.

LCM = >30.
Derive individual efficiencies from it(use allegation method as follows).
eff of p1=30/15 =>2.
eff of p2=30/10 =>3.
eff of p3=30/6 =>5.

From our condition
verify eff of p1+p2 =eff of p3.
2 + 3 = 5.
So, the assumption option C, 15 hours, would be correct.

NAGARJUNA said:   8 years ago
Can anyone help me?

If suppose A and B are filling a tank started at same time.
A alone can fill it in 'a' minutes B alone can fill it in 'b' minutes.
So we are taking (1/a)+(1/b)=1 to find the time.

But when they are filling it simultaneously why are we taking same (1/x+1/x-5=1/x-9)?
I think after completion of a ,b is started it means we have to take a+b right? But not (1/a)+(1/b).

NAGARJUNA said:   8 years ago
Can anyone help me?

If suppose A and B are filling a tank started at same time.
A alone can fill it in 'a' minutes B alone can fill it in 'b' minutes.
So we are taking (1/a)+(1/b)=1 to find the time.

But when they are filling it simultaneously why are we taking same (1/x+1/x-5=1/x-9)?
I think after completion of a ,b is started it means we have to take a+b right? But not (1/a)+(1/b).

Pulkit said:   1 decade ago
Can anybody answer my question with correct explanation that why we have neglected x=3 and answered x=5. I know the explanation but I want to now that does anybody else knows it.

Manasa said:   2 decades ago
@pranesh kumar

In options "3" is not given...so we considered 15
both "3" and "15" are correct.

@karthikeyan

In the question they given

The first two pipes operating simultaneously fill the tank(1/x+1/X-5)... in the same time means ("=") during which the tank is filled by the third pipe alone(1/X-9)
how much water gets filled up by the first two pipes in 1 hour...the same amount of water gets filled up by the third pipe in 1 hour.

Praneeth said:   1 decade ago
We have considered the x-5 and x-9 as time taken by 2nd and 3rd pipes, but after substituting x=3 we will get -2hr and -7hr respectively for the 2nd and third pipes.

So, we cant have negative values for time practically.


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