Aptitude - Permutation and Combination - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Permutation and Combination - General Questions (Q.No. 9)
9.
A box contains 2 white balls, 3 black balls and 4 red balls. In how many ways can 3 balls be drawn from the box, if at least one black ball is to be included in the draw?
32
48
64
96
None of these
Answer: Option
Explanation:

We may have(1 black and 2 non-black) or (2 black and 1 non-black) or (3 black).

Required number of ways = (3C1 x 6C2) + (3C2 x 6C1) + (3C3)
= 3 x 6 x 5 + 3 x 2 x 6 + 1
2 x 1 2 x 1
= (45 + 18 + 1)
= 64.

Discussion:
81 comments Page 4 of 9.

Miles said:   10 years ago
Consider the case where only one black ball is chosen. It could be chosen first second or third so that's 3 possibilities. As for the other two balls, they could be red or white. It could be red then white, white then red, white then white, or red then red, regardless of when the black ball is chosen.

So that's 4 possibilities. So, with only one black ball, that would be 12 possibilities (brw, bwr, brr, bww, rbw, wbr, rbr, wbw, rwb, wrb, rrb, wwb) but the solutions says there are 45 possibilities for this condition. Am I missing something or what?

Himanshu Kulkarni said:   9 years ago
One black ball from 3 is 3C1 and any 2 balls from remaining 8 balls
i.e. 8C2.

So, why 3C1 x 8C2 does not match the solution?

Revathy said:   9 years ago
I think Pavel Sain's answer is correct.

Naveen said:   9 years ago
@Pavel Sain: Since the ball of the same colour are identical, you should do ((3C1/3!) * (2C1/2!) * (4C1/4!)) etc.

So either you use the formula or make the individual combinations, the answer will be 6.

Apluv said:   9 years ago
Answer is 64. If the colors are different then balls are not identical.

Gauss said:   9 years ago
Can anybody tell me why the answer is not 3C1 x 8C2 = 84?

Anil said:   9 years ago
Can anybody tell me why the answer is not 3C1 x 8C2 = 84?
(1)

Mitali said:   9 years ago
If we consider that the balls are not identical, then one black ball for sure can be selected in 3C1 ways, after that, you can select any 2 out of the remaining 8 in 8C2, which will include black also. Can someone explain why this 3C1 x 8C2 also equals the total number of ways of selecting 3 balls out of 9 (i.e. 9C3)?

Viren Lakum said:   9 years ago
There are 9 balls in box, and as given one of them has to be black so we get,
(1 black and any 2) + (2 black and any 1) + ( 3 black)
(3C1 x 8C2) + (3C2 x 7C1) + (3C3) = 168 + 21 + 3 = 192.

RupamRD said:   9 years ago
2 White balls (W)
3 black balls (B)
4 red balls (R)

1W 1R 1B : (2c1 * 3c1 * 4c1)
1W 2B : (2c1 * 3c2)
1R 2B : (4c1 * 3c2)
2W 1B : (2c2 * 3c1)
2R 1B : (4c2 * 3c1)
3B + (3c3)
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64
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