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Women are not fit for Defense Services

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Sandeep Deshmukh said: (Sun, Mar 31, 2013 07:00:30 PM)

Dear friends according to me as every coin has two sides in this topic we have to thing in two ways. When we talk about women the first thought comes in our mind is that women are not physically fit in the armed forces. But we can over come from the physical strength also in women through giving them well training from childhood. As practice makes a man perfect. If we see the history there are women who made us proud in gave glory to our nation like PT Usha, Sania Mirza, Sania Newal in sports. If women can bring medals for the nation then why we think that women are not fit in armed forces. Women are done very well in all the fields like Indra Gandhi as prime minister Krin Bedi as IPS Officer and if we talk about battle field then Rani Laxmi Bai gave a great fight to the Britishers. In the democracy when we talk about equal opportunity to every one then women also get a fair chance to lead from front in armed forces. According to me women are fit in defense services.
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Aaina Mehta said: (Thu, Mar 28, 2013 11:34:50 PM)

We can see daily the woman works in every field. This is real fact that women are physically weak but they have good power and more dedicated and have much patience and more hard working n more sincere. When a women works in agriculture fields then she don. Taking care of hot sun or heavy rain. I would like to say that we should give a great chance to those women's who is very interested in defense services. If a women works many places where the work is totally depends upon mental n physically power.
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Anil Singh Bisht said: (Mon, Mar 4, 2013 05:14:12 PM)

Hi friends, I would like to say that in today's era if we are talking about the social equity, so we should given a chance to women to lead the front, if they are ready to give shoulder to every sector so why not here also. The chance to lead the front will be given to those women who meet the standards, which are common for men. If they will be able to do so, it is a very great proud for any country. Remember, Kiran bedy the first lady IAS who led the 26 Jan parade, first in the history of India. She marched the whole rajpat area, doing same a men can do. If we afraid of women dishonor in the border, people who misbehaves with girls should be change, rather talking about not to give them chance.
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Kamal Kumar said: (Sun, Mar 3, 2013 05:08:08 PM)

In my opinion today woman playing two different role in their life. First one role according to society they fulfill the requirement of their family and all that. And secondly according to himself to fulfill their dreams. So many times a woman have to choose a one role between these two. So for a defense type services a woman have to face a many problem. In a defense services we have to obeys the order by left own personnel problems or enjoyments. For example if a woman in defense and is married, after that got a child and at that time a child need a mother or at that time war begins in our country. At this stage for a mother and also a child is not good if she attend the war. This is only a one situation as I discuss. So defense is not fit for woman. Since the best option for a woman is bank, medical, designer, singer and dancer etc which make closer to their family.
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Bipasha Biswas said: (Sun, Mar 3, 2013 12:01:12 PM)

Who is asking reservations for women. The only thing we ask for is equal opportunities. Combat might create a controversy but when we ask for seats in the medical stream i.e. armed forces medical college, men have 105 seats and women 25. Now is this fair?
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Manmeet said: (Tue, Feb 12, 2013 08:07:35 PM)

I personally believe women are fit for defense services but they should be assigned in various other sectors of defense services such as medical, training and scouts. But when it comes to battlefield I believe men are physically more stronger than women and India being a moral country we cannot tolerate the news of brutalization of women and their dignity in war crimes.
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Sushil said: (Mon, Jan 21, 2013 01:09:50 AM)

Hi friends first time I m giving my opinion on net, so if any thing hurt you then I am sorry for that. Now days you see what happened on our border, our neighbor country attack on us in night and killed our two soldiers (brothers) , and cut the head brutally. If this thing happens with our sister then how can we react? can it tolerate? and what they will do if our sister capture by them? you can imagine that disgusting moment. If we have boys and males here to fight then why girls or women come in it? Women and girls are our last weapon which we must keep in safe and use when it need. Because dishonor of women will not be tolerate by India. Remember japan is stand now because their women are strong and alive to built country, so remember women is for creation not for dis-troy. I m not saying that women can't fight, she can fight but why time will come that our ladies stand for fight? I m repeating again battle field is not as in movie shows, battle can be continue till months. And our soldiers can fight as long as our support of artillery our food support, our injured soldiers need imminently treatment, and this thing can manage by women because there management is top class. I am totally against to sent women on battle field as soldiers. I am giving you one example, if you are going to fight and your sister giving you company, that time your opponent attack on you and your sister. What you will do? first you will save your sister then think about yourself, but battlefield never gives you second chance and it can kill you also. Again the point is come that girls or women is fit for arm force or not and answer is yes our women and girls are so strong so they can join arm force. Actually they can run our arm force successfully but they must not lead in battle field. Its my opinion. If anything hurt you inform me and I m sorry if I hurt any one feeling.
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Rajesh Kumar Sinha said: (Sun, Dec 30, 2012 02:47:11 AM)

I think that women are fit for defense services. Today women are participating in every types of job then why cannot they join defense. Women have glorified India in every field. Sunita williams, sania mirza, saina nehwaal, P.T. Usha are small example of this. So I think that they are equally capable as man.
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Anusha said: (Mon, Dec 24, 2012 03:10:34 PM)

In my view women are fit for defense sector. Now in present generation women are in every sector they have capabilities to do any thing in good manner. They are mentally strong comparing to the men in world.
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Harshitha said: (Tue, Nov 6, 2012 02:29:19 PM)

Girls are every were all over the world and also many are already working in defense and its every one duty to protect our country. Why can't a girl serve to her nation, and girls need support, if they get a proper value and support, she can achieve any thing. Main thing is not only women every one should serve the nation and really hats off to our soldiers. I am proud to be an Indian and I really pray god daily that I need to join defense I should work in it. If I get selected I'll be the luckiest girl in the world.
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Akshay said: (Sun, Oct 14, 2012 09:17:30 PM)

When we speak of women joining the Armed forces, we are taking of the whole of the female community in general, which in my view, is not the correct way to approach the argument. For example:. Women "in general" are physically weaker than men, that does not mean women (referring to the whole community) should be banned. At the same time, they "generally" are better managers than men, that does not mean women (referring to the whole community) should be taken for granted to join the forces. Hence we want those persons who are capable of doing what needs to be done being a part of the forces, be it men of women. You might quote examples of alexander, porus, albert einstien etc. But that doesnot mean you can take men for garnted, because, for every single person you quote, I can come up with ten examples of men from daily life who are a burden to the society. You might come up with examples of rani lakshmi bai, sunita williams, indira gandhi etc. But that does not mean you can take women for granted also, because, I can come up with atleast ten examples of women who are a burden to the society. Infact. I don't have to quote the examples. If you could look around you would find examples on your own. HENCE WE CANNOT SAY "MEN" OR "WOMEN" ARE FIT TO BE IN THE FORCES BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING OF VERY BIG SET OF PEOPLE WHEN WE REFER TO MAN OR WOMAN. WE ONLY NEED THE HAND PICKED FEW OF THESE TWO SETS TO BE IN THE FORCES. Hence no conclusion can be drawn when we ask "Are women fit for defence services". Only thing that can be said is that women should be given an unbiased chance, if they seem fit, they must be recruited. The same case is applied to men.
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Kumar Santosh Anand said: (Thu, Oct 11, 2012 11:17:59 PM)

Womens are not fit for defense. Its totally wrong why because of that if you given the proper training with equally treat like a men then OK. She has ability to do it anything in any filed then why can't fit for defense. As a womens lots of sacrifices she did. You take the example wedding. She after getting married she leaves her parents house and join that people who are all the stranger for her. Think that how she react while she leaving own house. So mentally she how much strong that we are (men) can't expect. So as per as my concern if she is decided to join the defense the we have not right to force her to do not join the defense. THANKS.
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Kalicharan Singh said: (Sun, Oct 7, 2012 12:49:58 AM)

Friends in my opinion women should introduce inside the Defense due to certain reason. 1: we can see the woman working in the Agriculture field through out the day, without taking care of odd weather, hot sun, heavy rain. She is also seen in many working places where the work is totally depends upon the mental and physical stamina. 2: If the women of our country can bring the GOLD, BRONZE & SILVER medals for our country in Olympics. If they can perform very well inside the police department then why don't inside the military ? 3: It is most favorable for them to take the command over the core branches i.e. Engg. , Medical, army educational dept. , transportation, food etc. Rather than to put their effort at the war front. Because unfortunately if the woman would get captured or kidnapped by the enemy that will be the worst n worst case scenario, And definitely direct or indirect way it'll create an stigma over the Army as well our county's forehead. So its very essential to give them robust training before sending them to war front, in order to make them powerful (physically and mentally) and full of skills. By which they can protect themselves first after that can tackle the war situation. 4: One of the most imp. Point is that in the present scenario probably 90% women have many other option regarding to their future prospect but they join defense due to their courage, spirit of adventure, dedication towards d country, and to prove their talent in this field, on the contrary a few of men have the true spirit of patriotism, rest of them joining the defense because of future security, for the greed of military facilities and it might say they don't have another option but to join defense. Keeping these points in mind my firm opinion goes towards introducing the women inside the defense. :) thanks.
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Abhinaya (Kerala) said: (Sun, Sep 16, 2012 11:27:04 AM)

Thank God for guys like "Keshav jha" who has commented that he finds it difficult to imagine that women are incapable of anything when he thinks of 'Durga' who has eliminated evil demons in physical combat. Given the same training as men, there is no reason that women can't perform equal to men. Ultimately, if our society forgets its female warriors and powerful goddesses and still thinks of women as "weaker sex" then it is a failing of our mentality rather than the failing of our constitution. Maybe I should take the examples of women like Rani Lakshmi Bhai, Razia Sultana and Joan of Arc who have physically fought battles, led political discussions and governed a nation. Surely, defence wouldnt then be a problem.
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Nitish Rathore said: (Mon, Sep 3, 2012 10:17:11 PM)

Women in defence sounds good... But you can not disagree with a universal fact that females are physically weaker sex as compared to males. Their capabilities of doing physical works are less. On the other hand, women are sincere, creative, good trainers and last but not the least management of women are really appreciable... so, conclusion is that women in defence are only fit for managerial posts, training officer posts or any other same related posts.
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Absk said: (Thu, Aug 30, 2012 05:56:32 PM)

Hello friends as I think that women are also fit in defence. Women are a little bit weaker than man but perfect or good training can also make woman a good martier. I don't say that women should allow in battlefield to fight war but they can employed in the defence comitee in which all the decisions about war and planning has to be made. Women can also done a good job in police. They can employed in the battle with inner terrorism, they can employed in the security of big leaders, they can employed in the reserve forces. So I mean to say that woman can also become like man but only in the case when we give them proper oppurtinity. Thank you.
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Subin_Mat said: (Fri, Aug 3, 2012 12:20:24 PM)

The topic sounded to me like the butterfly who wants to ride a bicycle, in short women's don't hold a chance, and there is only one word for it, weak, not just physically but as a whole. Many would disagree, but that will not rule out the fact, the greatest commanders, inventors, entrepreneurs, explorers, leaders are all men. In brief you would not be able to point out even a single women, who would best at anything. Here's the deal, give me name of a women who is the best, and I will yield. One could point out examples like Jhansi ki rani, Kiran bedi, Indira Gandhi, Prathiba patil and Indira nooyi. But there will always be men like Alexander, Subhash Chandra Bose, Gandhi, Abdul Kalam and Bill Gates to outmaneuver there accomplishments. And if women's don't hold a chance in any of these, you can only dream of defense force.
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Ketan said: (Fri, Aug 3, 2012 08:28:49 AM)

Hello! friends I totally agree with your thoughts but according to me everyone this world are made to do something. And each of us aware that women has played vital role in countries progress. "Woman's are not fit for defense" is wrong mentality but yes there are some military events in which women should not take parts. Women are no less then men, this they have shown us and the whole world but in some tough military events which are physically very much challenged women should not be allowed because men are more physically powerful and healthy from women and we cannot do anything in that context as this the decision of nature.
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Yogi said: (Tue, Jul 31, 2012 09:01:13 AM)

Women role in society is vital. Women are working in different profession with their talent and hard work. Women are goods managers, teachers, scientist, officers and many more. Than why not defense. A country like Israel has proved to the world even women can take up defense job. A women are better manger at home they look after home and children very well. Defense job is not confined to fighting at border. Many role in management, security, technology, medical science are their in defense. Women role in defense being women empowerment.
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Manju Mukundan said: (Mon, Jul 30, 2012 09:49:39 PM)

Just for the sake of discussion we can argue that women equals men in every aspects of life. But I am a girl, when I talk about joining defense services my mother gets worried, just because she knows that I am not going to get a good marriage proposal after that. Women marry army men, but men marrying army women is so uncommon. Marriage and taking care of their family is MAJOR factor which keeps women away from defense. Physical strengths and mental strengths are miles behind this point. This is a major discomfort that women faces when joining defense services. It is not that she is not strong enough to face the challenge, she just avoids these worries! AND WE WRITE LONG ESSAYS ABOUT 'WHETHER WOMEN ARE FIT OR NOT'. Strange!
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Meenakshi said: (Thu, Jul 19, 2012 11:51:43 AM)

Women have set examples like our president Mrs. Pratibha devisingh patil, Mrs Sonia gandhi, Indra gandhi etc. Women have excel in all fields be it aeronautics, space, engineering, police, defence. You just name any profession and they are there to excel so I think they have enough potential to join the defence.
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Keshav Jha said: (Sat, Jun 2, 2012 02:23:51 PM)

My dear friends, I regards all the views given by our friends. I am totally disagree with the topic "Women are not fit for Defense Services". The reasons are: (a) Women are the image of Maa Durga, who is the symbol of "Shakti", you may aware.(Having been Incarnation of Kali, She destroyed unlimited devils). (b) Women are so soft and on the contrary so hard, its depends upon situation. (c) I want to draw your attention on history, see the various battle where women. Took part like a storm (few in quantity but there was). (d) Our society have a mindset that women are week because we have forced to make. Them week. (No one is week, only his mind & morale is week) can be motivated to the. Optimum level. I feel, women can easily take part as combat force, If they will be trained as male. Woman has unlimited powers (like a cool mind, Intelligence, Honesty, patience, brain, vision, the power to say "No" and lot of knowledge to tackle a dire situation). For this successful participation of women in combat activity, Country has to give an equal opportunity right from the beginning in adventure, ncc, sports and etc.
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Saj said: (Wed, May 30, 2012 11:54:36 AM)

This is a real fact that women are physically weak but in term of mental toughness I think women are equivalent to men. But this is a fact that in point of war its better to avoid ladies from commanding troops because mental ability alone not enough for battle and matter like battle casualty and POW its better to keep women away from direct combat.
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Priya said: (Tue, May 15, 2012 09:00:50 PM)

Women are not fit for defence. WE FEEL WOMEN ARE NOT FIT, . Society makes them feel they are not fit. Girls themselves don't get the chance to realize their real power. The greatest discussion going on this is whether women should be introduced in combat roles. May I tell something, first of all please put an end to the women who are already working in other streams in the armed forces. Though there are news that women have been granted pc. Its false. Women are still given only ssc in most branches of armed forces. They are made to work for 14 years and then they are kicked out without any pension benefits. Aren't they Indian citizens. Still we are not bothered. Because it's nothing related with us right? Guys please do something. Is it a mistake that they chose to be different?. It is surprising that when the government claim to be working on a mission to abolish gender discrimination. They are not bothered about the one happening in from of their eyes. Men know to dominate only. And they want to dominate always. And these lines told by a senior office in the defence prove it. "We cannot ignore the socio-cultural mindset of India, which doesn't allow us to have women as Commanding Officers, come in close contact with the enemy or be taken as POWs. Most women here are from rural backgrounds, without a proper education and are used to taking orders from male superiors. It may not be so much the case (or maybe not at all) in countries like the US, Israel, China, Jordan, Sri Lanka, Canada, Kuwait. Even in Israel, where military is a way of life, women soldiers are not allowed in direct active combat, at the frontline. ".
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Anonymous said: (Mon, May 14, 2012 09:51:14 PM)

Here I see that a no.of people go on talking about the physical weakness, mental weakness and all of women. May I ask one thing? who said women are born weak? It is the society that makes them weak. The society that is on a mission to prove that women are capable of nothing but doing the house hold work and that too especially in a male dominated society like India. The same stuff is done in foreign countries and if they can do it. In what way are Indian women different from them?, ok I know that now you all will go on talking on and on. The cultural differences. But such a culture would only help a girl be more self sufficient and would make her realize her true power. I do agree that women are a physically a bit weaker than men but with proper training even that can be fixed. Now let us take the case of NDA. A prestigious institution from were every Indian citizen dream about graduating. 'EVERY', not just men. Even after so many years why does nda keep it's door shut when it comes to the case of women. Aren't they Indian citizens? don't they deserve equal rights?. And I heard one of you mention that women have been granted permanent commission. But I am really sorry. Women have been granted pc in a few posts only. Women pilots in iaf are still given short service commission only. And that's another thing I don't understand. Why just pc for a few posts? Now another most discussed topic is about inducting women in the combat section. It has still not been decided because most feel that women are not physically fit enough to come in contact with an enemy. Though that's a solvable issue let it be in the case of army. But what about navy and iaf. In such cases what the pilot and navigators need is just simple brains and courage. Guys the real fact is that men fear whether they would loose their power, position and domination if they let the women handle such areas which were only meant for 'MEN'. So they are still busy giving lectures on how weak and dumb women are. And last but not the least a big. Sorry if I have hurt anyone of you. I just wanted to express my opinion.
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Nishanant said: (Wed, Mar 28, 2012 07:54:17 PM)

Women are physically weak. Women are delicate. Women are emotional. At the same time women are patriotic, much determined and patient. Contradictory may arise that patience isn't required in the field of defense. But, if this isnt exists then would it possible to stop these wars? If they throw the bomb even we will. You can ask we can't keep quiet if they start up. But if the problem a raised, can be avoided by simple patient talks. Lets take up INDIRA GANDHI who was prime minister of our mother land was headed as defense minister n foreign affairs minister. The first one which flashes in our mind about women is MOTHER. She is given the name 'the sacred ' because of her sacrifies in saving her child. Everyone see a women to be delicate but, who else can be ready to face the pain she undergoes to give her child a life? answer may be no one. If women is weak its the negative atmosphere created by people. They are emotional but at the same time they have the quality of how to take up a situation which is very necessary in field of defence. If defence is all about being strong physically then I myself would readily accept women are NOT fit. In my opinion defence is all about winning the situation and making it dead root rather than building physical strength and counting the people you have won.
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Manish Singh said: (Sat, Mar 10, 2012 05:58:11 PM)

Hello friends, When our countrymen were struggling and fighting to attain the freedom, the women folk also fought shoulders to shoulders and whole heatedly supported the struggling freedom fighters. During India's struggling for freedom, the women took a favorable turn. Women constitute approximately 40% population of a nation. If she is given the task for development of the country. She can make a wonder. She is more dedicated, more hard working, more sincere, more devoted to the cause. Women are more dedicated and more devoted to their duties and have much patience and politeness than man by nature. Therefore I am saying women are fit for defense services or any job in our county.
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Subin said: (Fri, Mar 9, 2012 09:23:03 PM)

Men has forged empires, Men have made breakthrough inventions, Men had the courage to think diffrent, Men had the determination to explore lands beyond oceans, where mens wrath could consume Hiroshima Nagasaki in a breath they choose to be compassionate enough to make the greatest philanthropist contribution, Men has taught us love, non-violence and equality. Whatever the man is he earned it. And if womens have any diginity in them, stop pointing fingers looking something to blame like a big shadow, cowards do that, If you actually think that you are capable enough why not go ahead and have it, don't expect it to be given to you in a silver platter.
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Mahi said: (Fri, Mar 9, 2012 09:16:38 AM)

It is known fact that women are physically weaker than men, but it is also true that they have strong will power. When women have proved their worth in police services ex: kiran bedi, then why we doubt their ability when it comes to defence. Yes it is true that women themselves hesitate to join the defence. So they should be encouraged from tender age and should participate in ncc camps and adventuroes games. After all men are also trained for several months and then send to the war field. So I feel women should be allowed to join defence.
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Priyanka said: (Thu, Feb 16, 2012 10:09:58 PM)

Each one of us on this world came with some good & bad qualities, with some strenghts & weeknesses. But, we are all equal for our GOD. Because HE doesnt descriminates amongst us. We worship all Gods & Goddesses also, especially Maa Durga, who is the MOTHER of the whole world. Females are said to be the images of Maa Durga. They have the strenghts in built into them. They are in no way inferior to any one. As far as fighting on the war field is concerned, then even the males are trained for that. Its not that they fight without any prior preparation. So, also in the similar way, the same training is provided to females also. And if they pass in the same, then they are selected as Jawans. So, its not a case of MAN-WOMAN or MALES-FEMALES, but its a case of the qualities required to get qualified as a soldier in Army. So, I'll Like to reiterate that all are equal. Everyone should be provided an equal opportunity to prove their worth, be it a GIRL or a BOY.
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Deepu said: (Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:55:11 AM)

Hello friends, In my point of view women are the second part of our society. In our daily life women plays a lot of role. Women can also be capable to join the defence. If a women have capability of leadership she can easily handle all kind of situation in defence. It is true that they are not physically stronger than men but presence of mind can handle the situation. War can not win by strong physical it need right trick at the right time. Today there are so many women in our defence. Do not forget today our president is also a woman she control all the country & all defence activity.
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Nikhil Shankar said: (Wed, Jan 4, 2012 10:16:13 AM)

People who say that women who do exercise regularly from child birth would build strength physically, possibily true but not certainly stronger than men because women simply have lower levels of testosterone when compared to men which is major factor for developing physical power and strength. Testosterone indeed increases your haemoglobin and red blood cells which are abundance in men when compared to women as I had mentioned it earlier. You cannot count on exceptions like shanti tigga. By and large men are indeed physically stronger than women. If you really think women have the same physical capabilities how come mens world records are greater than womens records in all major sports including sprint, long distance running, swimming, skating and atheletics. Why is that in tennis men only play 5 sets in grand slams and not women. Take a look at all the major sports world records. Men significantly outperform women. Still not convinced I can get you the list of world records of all sports which indeed proves that men are physically stronger than women.
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Himanshu said: (Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:31:44 PM)

Hi friends. Defense services is not a matter of gender basis its the matter of national security, we cannot say that defense is not fit for women, recently take example of SHANTI TIGGA recently inducted as first lady soldier in INDIAN ARMY by defeating her male counterpart and she is mother of two children. So how can we say defense is not fit for women. Defense is just not about physical strength, its about decision making, will power, courage and these quality are not gender dependent. In fact lady can become a part of defense and contribute towards strengthening military might. As far as physical parameter are concerned than if women from childhood will get involved in sports than definitely they will gain physical strength.
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Vrathore said: (Wed, Dec 21, 2011 09:50:29 AM)

Hey hii friends my personal opinion on this topic is :. 1. No doubt that today's women can reach the heights of moon, they play a vital role in human era of human beings. 2. Women can achieve many heights in defence services also but from my point of view in defence sector women must give executive, accounts, finance, ordinance, etc type of jobs. 3. Pointing them towards wars always approach to a one question i.e. nothing else but safety of women in battlefield. This question always rise ? In battlefield isn't Rani get raped by Britishers after her death. 4. So I am not saying that we avoid to give job for women in defence services but in executive field not in war side.
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Hemlata Gupta said: (Tue, Dec 20, 2011 01:05:52 PM)

I am not agree that women are not fit for defense services because if it will be true then the first member of india is a woman and we all know that president is the chief of all the forces in india then how can we say that woman are weak. They can be weak physically but not intellectually,in decision making.
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Nikhil Shankar said: (Mon, Dec 19, 2011 05:47:07 PM)

People here are trying to quote jhansi rani, phoolan devi as great warriors but according to me the greatest warrior generals in the history are. 1. Baji rao peshwa. He is said to be the greatest warrior generals in the history who has fought over 41 battles in his life and he is reputed to have never lost a single battle or war and has been victorious against all the opponents in the history. He defeated the mighty afghans, the mughals and the portuguese. 2. Krishnadevaraya. He is also one of the greatest monarch in the history who has reputed to have never lost a battle in his life and has subdued all the mlost powerful enemies such as bahmani sultans and gajapati klings of kalinga. 3. Bappa rawal. This rajput warrior from chittor is one of the warrior generals in the history to have never lost battle against any foreign invader particularly the arabs. And took control of kabul, iran. 4. Lalithaditya mukthapida. He is called the unforgotten hero. It is a big shame that this hero a great kashmiri king who is suppose to be recognised as the greatest warrior is hardly. Mentioned in our history and unknown. He is also one of the few kings in the Indian history who has never lost a battle and successfully defended his kingdom against the marauding arab tribes from the west and the tibetan tribes from the east. Apart from these there are other kings like raja raja chola, narasimha pallavan who have been the most successful warriors who have never lost a battle. This shows that our society is totlally ignorant about these great men who have played a very important role as a warrior in terms brute power and as great military strategists.
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Nikhl Shankar said: (Mon, Dec 19, 2011 10:55:30 AM)

In this era of male bashing and female supremacy people and society in the world especially India want to demean men and consider them as inferior in every possible way especially women and many of the feminist people want to bring female supremacy in every possible field even in the military, many people are going to continue to talk in favour of women and bring false information stating that male dominated world which ios not true anyway in todays scenario women have more rights than men. It is men who are being discriminated even in case of military.
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Female said: (Sun, Dec 18, 2011 06:04:40 PM)

@Nikhil Shankar: its not just about the physical strength you are talking about, it is also about how much brain you use. if women do not have as much as strength as men but they have brains to use in other fields of defense like logistics, cyber war , making strategy etc.
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Surendra Singh Shekhawat said: (Fri, Dec 9, 2011 11:57:10 PM)

In my opinion women have a strong will power, through this they can handle any situation. Many times women prove themselves like rani laxmi bai in 1857 kranti. We know Shiva ji as a warrior. Who was his teacher to teach him all kind of technique, she was his mother jeja bai. Many of examples are full of fill in our history women are teaches men.
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Nikhil Shankar said: (Sat, Nov 26, 2011 12:34:32 PM)

Evolution had made it so. So far only feminists have the gut to go against mother nature. Even if you deliberately find a man much smaller you, I severely doubt that you can be stronger than him. Sorry, testosterone built up so much muscles, bone strength, enlarge lung capacity and enrich blood haemoglobin. The average man have about twice muscle power and haemoglobin than the average woman. He therefore can endure much more oxygen lacking activity than average women. In submarine and tank operators, ie, in many combat situations, lack of oxygen, toxic fume from gun powder fire, battery discharge acid (sub) and heavy physical manoeuvring, is enough to make 95% of women faint! An average artillery shell weighing 80 pounds, any of the 4 men crews in the tank must ramp it into the breach of the gun in a bedeviled speed to fire back in a thick, acrid smoke of fired gun powder. How do feminists, who have NEVER experienced a combat training situation keep on demand women equality in military? This is STUPIDITY at it best. Just the collision with the iron & steel parts in the tank may make women bone fracture. The average fighter pilot suffer frequent 5G* force in every turn of the jet, wearing an oxygen mask and a blood vein choking flight suit*. Under such conditions, most women would be blacked out in mid air. And women in infantry? This is a joke, right? most women would stand little chance against even the smallest infantry man. Men have been evolved as a hunter and fighter for at least 200 000 years. In all species of primate, non has such a large a sexual dimorphism GAP as human being. If any of your foolish feminist friends tell you otherwise, tell them to enlist in the army for awhile to cure their ideological stupidity. 99% of Jewish female infantries NEVER involved in front line combat. Please watch TV, if you ever see one of them in Gaza or WestBank fighting, I'll loose my neck. And this is the ONLY army in the world that enrolled women in large numbers. what is 5G? if you weight 130 pounds, 5G= 130x5= 650 pounds of pressure weighing ACROSS your body. ** to prevent blood rushing either up or down the brain creating black out conditions. The flight suit would chock your neck, check, arm, legs in every one of such turn.
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Shrish Pandey said: (Wed, Nov 23, 2011 10:53:52 AM)

Its not like that they are not fit for defence. They can contribute in this field too. They have all qualities like men. Like intelligence, courage, stamina, guts, skills. So they should participate in defence sector. But if this is the matter of nation's security we can't take chances. Everyone saying about jhashi ki rani. But we can't reject this thing that how many jhasi ki rani still present today. We can't select 2 girls or 3 girls for the force. We need thousands of them. And a consistent traing is also compulsory for them. Because if they are really going to battle ground there would not be retakes. One mistake can end their lives. So if we really want them to contribute in in defence. Then it would take a long time to make them perfect for this job. In a war their are many situation that weapons don't work. At that time physical and mental strenth reallly matters. So they have to be strong enough to fight with all these difficulties. But they can join other departments in defence like research on weapons, cyber cell etc without any big problem. Jai hind.
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T Devdoot said: (Sun, Nov 20, 2011 06:44:35 PM)

Friends, I stood in opposition of the topic that women are not fit for defense service. As we know any battle is own by courage, strategy and discipline. To me all these qualities are present in the women to a great extent. Moreover the women are generally gifted with a rocksteady adjustment mentality in our Indian society. Till from there birth they grows on adjusting with the society inspite of several inequalities. As the modren day warfare is not about fighting only with physical endurance but also use of cool head, correct strategy and motivated attitude. To me women are hence extremely invited in the defence force as they also have similar passion to serve the motherland like a man. So we should extend all help to our female members of the society to come and join the defense service. This will also irradicate the gender inequality in the society.
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Sabitha said: (Sun, Nov 20, 2011 12:39:17 PM)

Yes I do agree with all your ideas, I would like to add few more points to this discussion, now a days women are exploring themselves in all fields and are equally fighting with men. So coming to defence physical dependency is prerequisite, as we all know women like rani laxmi bhai, kiran bedi, Indian cricket player mithali raj, fought for our country/nation exploring themselves in their respective fields, these shows their physical evidence, so women being a part of defense make much better changes to save nation along with men.
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Harshkanojia said: (Sat, Nov 5, 2011 11:40:05 AM)

Women in defence is not a new thing at all. Rani lakshmibai was a women yet was such a powerful soldier. And in todays time war on the fronts are not that common as it used to be in the past. Everybody have started realizing that war is not a solution for bringing peace. So combat missions in large scale war have become quiet uncommon. Its now the era of war in logistics, cyber war. So women can certainly be a part of it. But there is something which is true and always remain true and that is there are very few women like Rani Lakshmibai when it comes to combat missions not only because women are less strong than men but also because women are generally more sensitive and emotional than men. If your enemy is a side with fully armed men then you can never imagine your side to be full of women- certainly not. Its m honest view and it is not to hurt the sentiments of women.
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Akshay said: (Sun, Oct 30, 2011 12:34:57 PM)

My friends have made up a great discussion over this issue I just want that they should be inducted in Defence Services but should not be sent in battle field because man can be tortured to any extent but for women if they are caught as prisoner of war they might get caught they could have to get sexually harassed. We all consider every women's respect hence they should be restricted to peace areas only.
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Nikhil said: (Sat, Oct 22, 2011 01:39:06 PM)

In primates and apes such as gorilla, orangutan, chimpanzee and gibbons the males are on average twice the size larger and stronger than the female and morever in these communities males dominate females in upper body strength, lower body strength, endurance and agility. Humans also belong to the primate community mind you and in humans men significantly have greater upper body strength as well as lower body strength than females. Still you disagree with me then take a look at the olympic records you moron.
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Deep said: (Sun, Oct 16, 2011 12:52:12 PM)

I think security of nation is first of all and in this way everyone, of any gender, can take part in this battle. In case of women, they are more strong than men because they hold everything not only what man can do but also man cannot do. Their tolerance power and their constructive nature is really admirable. So they should join the defense and should take part in the security of nation.
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Sharda Singh said: (Sun, Oct 9, 2011 01:41:21 AM)

For development of a nation both serve equally then why not let women prove their worth in defense services? I never say that women should be given more and they will give better results than men but can't we move forward supporting each other. It should not be a matter of argument but a matter of thought that why not to give them their chance to join the armed forces and serve the nation. Women may not be there to fight wars all the time but they have the best of talent and potential to manage the resources, handle situations, they possess leadership qualities and so many more things that can help the defense services grow and move towards a glorious India. Its a time to cooperate, help each other and move towards all round development.
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Narottam said: (Tue, Sep 20, 2011 01:23:00 PM)

Hello everyone, as we know women are the mother of men. They can handle situations very much harder in her life. Every women have face a war in her life when she gave birth to a child and after marriage when she leaves her own house and lives in other's house (father -in -law's). So she face the situations everywhere in the world with very confidence. So, we can say that women must be included not only in war but also in every field where a man can go. Women is the key of success for men and the reverse also true.
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Souvik Mishra said: (Wed, Sep 14, 2011 10:18:06 PM)

Women in defence is not a new thing at all. Rani lakshmibai was a women yet was such a powerful soldier. And in todays time war on the fronts are not that common as it used to be in the past. Everybody have started realizing that war is not a solution for bringing peace. So combat missions in large scale war have become quiet uncommon. Its now the era of war in logistics, cyber war. So women can certainly be a part of it. But there is something which is true and always remain true and that is there are very few women like Rani Lakshmibai when it comes to combat missions not only because women are less strong than men but also because women are generally more sensitive and emotional than men. If your enemy is a side with fully armed men then you can never imagine your side to be full of women- certainly not. Its m honest view and it is not to hurt the sentiments of women.
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Roshnee Singh said: (Sat, Sep 10, 2011 08:07:18 PM)

Hello everyone. Well, I don't think there is any problem in keeping women in the actual war. I agree that women are emotional, but then they are raised to be emotional, just the way, the guys are raised to be emotionally strong, n not panic n breakdown in front of others. Such is not the case with the girls. If a girl panics, it is always considered to b a girl-thing. And yes, I would also like to add, that women are not emotionally weak. If and when the situation arises, they can handle things equally well, as a man can. And besides, no one knows exactly how you have to react to a particular situation, unless and until you are made aware of the situations. Any civilian, be it a guy or a girl, would panic if he or she doesn't know what he has to do during war-times or such emergencies. This is the kind of the thing soldiers are given training for. So, I don't think there is a need for gender discrimination. It is not the topic to discuss if who amongst men or women is superior. Both are equals. If women are taught to face things like men, I m sure they will do equally well.
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Nikhil Shankar said: (Tue, Aug 23, 2011 09:44:59 PM)

MR. Srisivam the strongest bodybuilders in the world are men the strongest wrestlers are men it is men who hold the records for fastest times both in running and swimming. If you still disagree I can bring you a list of world records to prove you wrong you bloody jackass. You say that women are superior to men because they give birth but it is only with the help of the male female is able to give birth you fool remember that.
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Sunit said: (Tue, Aug 16, 2011 11:08:58 PM)

Indian defence services do not recruit women in combat cadre, so most of countries. But mostly in logistic, education and construction field, where they will not actually be fighting. War is not so glorious as it may sound. People with high aderline will die early causing wastage of manpower in handling dead bodies. What actually matters is how much pressure you can bear? How much bullshit you can take. Things change suddnely when your good friend fighting shoulder to shoulder get shot. Its not a pleasant sight, wounds do not look like as seen in movies, you can find limbs toorn apart but still hanging with skin. And you might have to carry him alone. Its best if females are not a part of such operation.
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Shri Sivam said: (Thu, Aug 11, 2011 10:43:00 AM)

Women are an embodiment of love, affection and sacrifice. They have sacrificed themselves for their family. If needed they will sacrifice themselves for the welfare of her country too. There are many incidents in history in which women took initiative to protect her people. If it was so centuries ago why not today. Todays scenario is different. They are leading and shaping themselves. Though we are not broad minded to encourage them, why the hell do we discourage them. This just shows our malechauvnistic attitude. Let us respect her. She has both mental as well as physical capablities to be in defence. She had shown her talents in many fields. If proper assistance is given she will also shine in defence too. THE HAND THAT ROCKED THE CRADLE WILL SURELY RULE THE WORLD.
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One said: (Sun, Jul 24, 2011 05:32:31 AM)

Women are MORE emotional quotient? Haha thats hillarious. Women's emotions are not a advantage but rather a handicap. Anyone whos had a girl friend can tell you first hand that women can not control their emotions nearly as much as men. You need a great deal of self-control when in combat, if not your as good as dead. As far as the intelectual I'd add that women in general can hold as much general knowlege as some men but whe it comes to applying it are quite inferior.
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Nikhil Shankar said: (Tue, Jul 19, 2011 01:17:56 PM)

What makes you think that women are better than men in every fields. There are many ways I can prove you wrong. The females their who say that women are better than men are all absolute female chauvenistic assholes and feministic morons and the guys who say that women are better than men are unfit to call themselves as men and are not fit for manhood. Bloody moronic fools take a look at all the olympic records and sports worlds records for running, lifting, swimming and jumps. All the records are being held by men. What the hell makes you think that males are the inferior gender in the society. If possible I can send you a list of sports worlds records and lets see how you people react.
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Sachin Agarwalla said: (Sat, Jul 16, 2011 05:45:37 AM)

I think women are fit for defence service because they are very intelligent and creative and possesses leadership quality. They can do everything in today's world in a better way than man. We need to give them opportunity. I think America developed using women power.
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Mathew said: (Wed, Jul 13, 2011 09:01:37 AM)

Although I am totally in favour of letting a women sharing the terror of serving the front line, Let me ask a question, a very simple one. How many wars could our country win if we had all female in IAF? How successful the kargil war (fought in the icy heights) would have been if we had infantry battalion all females? How successful operation Black Tornado would have been if the NSGs were all women? How much would you trust a female over a "brother-in-arms" by your side in combat? How secure would feel your country is if all of IAF were women's? That all that it really matters when bullets start flying.
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Saurabh Akshant Shukla said: (Fri, Jul 8, 2011 08:24:10 AM)

In my opinion, womens are for fit for the defence services because now-a-days technology are always growing at high rates due to that during the wars one no need to show their strength power only instead of that he/she will make use of their will power their smartness during the war, and we all know that that will power of womens are always comparable or even more than that of the men. Hence womens are fit for defence services. As we can see that womens are taking part in sports like wrestling, cricket, races etc. Which shows their physically fit evidences for armed services as well as we know that womens have proved themselves as intellectually and mentally fit.
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Mat said: (Thu, Jul 7, 2011 06:59:38 AM)

"I donot doubt there heart, only the reach of there arms". When fewer womens are inducted in combat roles across the world, its not for depriving womens from there privileges, but for the fact that national security cannot be compromised for that purpose. Statisticaly speaking the "Centre for millitary readiness" stated that "Female soldiers are on average shorter and smaller than men, with 45-50% less upper body strength and 25-30% less aerobic capacity, essential for endurance. Therfore do not hold a chance in combat against men, not to mention women will bring out much complication in battle zones.
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Gopal said: (Fri, Jul 1, 2011 03:00:11 AM)

I want to say that women who say that women are fit for defence, I think women are not seriously think about our nation. If they think so they not say "women are fit" defence job is tough and want hard work. It is naturally true women are weaker than men and secondly women is emotional so I think women are not fit.
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Mathew said: (Tue, Jun 28, 2011 06:32:38 AM)

I despise Indian government who has inducted reservations for womens in various fields just because they are weaker s-x, And now they are trying to implement the same in Indian armed force, compromising our national security. If womens are as capable as they claim they are, what do they need reservations for. War and combat has always been a province of men. However I cant wait to see womens in battle field, wouldnt that be a sight.
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Manoj said: (Sat, Jun 25, 2011 07:07:36 AM)

Hi, I am manoj. According to me, women are fit for defence services as like other services. As we can see that women are taking part in sports like wrestling, cricket, races etc which shows their physically fit evidences for armed services as well as we know that women have proved themselves as intellectually and mentally fit. So women should be in the armed forces as like men.
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Lisa Sunny said: (Sat, May 21, 2011 02:06:58 PM)

According to me, one should never undermine a women's strength! She might be physically less stronger than the opposite sex but when it comes to her emotional and intelligence quotient, she's can be ten times stronger than any man! YES that a fact! if all humans are born to live and given an equal right in every sphere, then why should the women be stereotyped, and kept behind as compared to men? Men don't work in the kitchen to help his wife or family, but when he's paid for it, he damn will does it. Coming from a defence background myself, I know the pitfalls as well as the great things about it, and there's nothing like it. A career in this field, especially for a woman is not only the best but the "most" respectful too! It trains her to be self dependent, self financed, disciplined etc. plus the benefits she gets which no other civilian can get is the most sought after. Those who speak that its not good, and women shouldn't consider it as a career option, are, according me, small minded people who are still believing in the chicle that women are inferior ! Women when given chances climb mountain feats, solve business solutions, prepare food for 25 people, and still be able to smile and bear all these topics at the end of the day. As the saying goes thoughts becomes words and words become action!, same can be incorporated in our lives, as we the people of India, bring about a reform through our thoughts, words and ultimately our actions. Then its not far when the dream of living together in harmony become a reality.
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Padma Sri said: (Wed, Apr 27, 2011 01:50:11 PM)

It is not only the physical structure which comes into account for the defense forces. With a minimum prescribed structure any one has a privilege to be appointed in such forces. The main point which comes into criteria in defense is the courage to face the enemies I. E) the strength to oppose all the forces that weaken our country. Taking the right decision in right time is also an important aspect. WOMEN possess the in-birth quality of having great affection and compassion for people around them. And in our families also it is our mother who manages everything by proper planning and prompt decisions. So, when the women possess all the qualities of being in defense why do we stop them? Our history also tells us that they have been great women leaders and warriors like Rani Lakshmi Bhai, Sarojini Naidu, Indira Gandhi, Kiran Bedi. The list continues. So they have already proved that women possess the strength of being in hard sectors. So why not defense?
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Sri Lakshmi said: (Sun, Apr 17, 2011 06:16:44 AM)

Friends, from centuries women are being treated as second grade human beings. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses and gender is not a matter. If you are strong and capable you shine in defense even if you are female and if you are male and not capable enough, you even cant join defense. So encourage females until we change our minds and update ourselves in this competitive world.
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Sashank Bandhakavi said: (Fri, Apr 1, 2011 01:56:03 PM)

Hey guys. The word "women" is an extension of word "men", the patience they show, the hardwork they do, the perseverance they exhibit is infinite. The womens womb is the most precious thing ever known, the womb that carries men, of them most grow up and criticize women the only reason for their existence. Women are not incompetent they do things which are unprecedented. The very reason after which I say that women can go into defense services is that they are tough as a stone. But the selection must be done on the liable rules. There is one more reason I want them in a war, its because I just want them to know the people they created are in a utter chaos, they have grown pathetic day after the day.
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Vinay said: (Fri, Apr 1, 2011 04:01:57 AM)

There is no dought that women are not fit for defense but there may be a question of security of her. But in defense field she is trained in self defense hence security is also not a question. Biological structure may raise a question but we see women who are presently in non defense field show that it is also not a question. we have many examples like kiran bedi or in sports Karnam malleshwari, anju boby who have done well in physical challenges hence it is clear that there is no way we can tell that they are not fit.
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Deepak Joshi said: (Sat, Mar 12, 2011 01:00:49 PM)

I just want to clearify that women are been given permanent commison in indian army so there is no question can be raise on their approciateness since it is well known fact that indian army does not compromises with quality they are getting the right candidate therefore they are making up to this post so discussion must now end on this note
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Chetana said: (Thu, Feb 3, 2011 02:22:12 PM)

Theres no need of thinking because behind every man thers a woman. She has the capacity to utilize her strengths everywhere unless and until she has been well educated and she can accomplish many things if she has a very good respect in this competitive world. Its the mistake of the women who follows men in each n every steps. If she would hav been well educated, employed n repected by this nation, getting equal importance as men as well she could hav acieved o lot many things. I being a girl intersted in defence. This is not to make the men cheap. But there are men whu think only they are strong enuf to save the country. My qs is ' why not women?' they are key to the success in many matters n why not for this. Women are born not only for caring the family but also to fight for the rights I mean to say she s also born to achiev things by her efforts.
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Versa said: (Sun, Nov 28, 2010 05:52:59 AM)

I think women can work in defense. In this modern era their is no difference between men & women. Women are there in every field & they are performing well. For getting success in any field, the most important thing is intelligence, hardworking, sincerity towards the work and mental & physical power and I think Indian women have all this qualities so they suit for defense. There are many women who have proved them self better in this field the best example is RANIlAXMI BAI. Womens are now days developing them self in different field, they are competing with men and molding them self to suit better in every field.
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Manish Kumar said: (Wed, Sep 8, 2010 01:14:35 AM)

My der friends, according to me in modern erra women contributing a lot for development of our nation in every field you can take exampal of kalpna chawla, Lata mugheskar. In the same manner women can also contribute a lot in defence service because they are flecible, harworkers as well as handsom. So according to me women are very fit for defence services. And their appotunities shoud increase in defence services.
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Satya said: (Fri, Jul 2, 2010 06:57:02 AM)

I also agree with this. As a women we can achieve any thing. In the history also we can see so many women worriers. All they are role models for us. If we have chance, we can prove our patriotism, and do our best for our nation.
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Dr.Metal said: (Thu, Jul 1, 2010 07:10:12 AM)

I agree with this statement because in spite thinking about the aspect of patriotism and their capability, they are very kind and liable to sentiments. so the are not fit for armed forces.
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Rahul said: (Mon, Jun 28, 2010 06:07:21 AM)

Womens are the eyes of the country. By using the women power america developed. So we will give more preference to womens.
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Kamaraj said: (Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:49:15 PM)

Hi everyone women are exactly fit for defense services like IAF and navy, as border fight is not only the job and also many other field works where given to them and among all these points womens where given permanent commisions in armed forces and that too is due to their perfomance and sincerity and honored work towards their nation. Womens should be given more preference in forces as the other country. So womens and men should be given equality in all fields.
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Prabir Chakraborty said: (Thu, Jun 24, 2010 07:09:59 AM)

For a moment let us forget the gender, class, caste, colour of our skin etc etc & LET US THINK RATIONALLY & LOGICALLY. The debate here is quite clear, right? When majority of people agreed upon women are capable only for engineering, aviation, doctor, architect etc in defence but can not be fit in fore- front. But may i raise the question WHY SUCH FEELINGS? For defence services( say,battle field) what one individual need to fit into the system? As per my thought process says: 1.Intellectuality 2. Educational background 3. Logical, analytical thining power 4.Courage & Guts 5.Physical stamina(vigor, vitality & strength) 6.Flexibility or reflex and many more potentials are within our women force of india. Only thing we need to be im biast to get right person & inducted in the system. Let us accept without hsitation the above said all abilities are there in Indian women at par with like men. I strongly beleive they can perform even in this field pretty well. Our Indian history has many legendary women worriors,revolutionaries. I will not name them here. Today in India there are 35% woemn are engaged in various field. Our defence force & Govt. approved women to be given permanent commission. So,why the ambiguity and fear among us? Let India grow irrespective of gender or class.I quote" It's not the colour of the gas ballon which goes up high into the sky but the content in it." Therefore if right masses of women folks who are willing & having passions within, let them come forward, to fight even at LOC where is the problem? Women are in all fields & proving their worth.
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Sushma said: (Wed, Jun 23, 2010 05:22:09 AM)

If women are not fit for Defense services then why they are getting an opportunity in Defense services. Fight at the border is some what difficult to the women I agree but we don't say that women can not fight against the men because we know that Jhansi Lakshmi Bai, a woman fought against men in a battle. Of course, it is not possible for all women but it is possible for some. Any way women don't have entry in to the army field as a soldier. But if u give chance to them they also do, no no prove that they that one also. Any how women is always fit for any department of Defense services that she has opportunities.
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Kapil Rathore said: (Mon, Jun 21, 2010 04:32:18 AM)

My dear friend Versha! Here we are talking about Defense Services, not every field. and i already told you that "women are fit to Defense services only for some particular sectors", they (women) wont be able to fight against mans at the border, so please don't say women can do everything in every field.
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Varsha said: (Sun, Jun 20, 2010 06:12:55 AM)

I m totally disagree with this statement that women are not fit for the defense service. Now a days women can do every thing in every field. They are now not disabled for any thing they want. They can stand in the world with their own strengths. So absolutely they (women) are fit for the defense services.
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Kapil Rathore said: (Tue, Jun 15, 2010 04:10:03 AM)

My dear friends, one thing I want to clarify in yours mind that, Defense services is not only related to fight at border, many peoples thought that Defense Services means we have to go at border for security Concerns. But Defense Services is not only related to security at border but also lots of other aspects are also available- like Engineers, doctors, Architect, pilot's, security system managers, Ethical Hacker etc. In my opinion women are very suitable for such kind of jobs, because they are very sincere, focused and hard worker that's why she fulfill all the requirements which is required in Defense services.
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Karpagajothi said: (Sun, Jun 13, 2010 03:16:53 AM)

i can not accept this comment because in my point of view they more sincere and patriotic people..so women are more suitable to defensive forces
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Rajesh.So said: (Sat, Jun 12, 2010 12:52:46 PM)

Womens are the backbone of our nation, without by their cooperation we can't reach our destiny of a developed nation.
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