Verbal Reasoning - Syllogism - Discussion
Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 5)
Directions to Solve
In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.
Give answer:
- (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
- (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
- (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
- (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
- (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.
5.
Statements: Some papers are pens. All the pencils are pens.
Conclusions:
- Some pens are pencils.
- Some pens are papers.
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Discussion:
64 comments Page 5 of 7.
Jayageetha said:
1 decade ago
As per rules, no trivial (particular) solution can be drawn for this question. There can be many solutions like 1. All pencils are papers.
2. Some pencils are papers, 3. Some papers are pencils, 4. Some Pens are pencils and 5. Some pens are papers. Now, has the option been 'no conclusion can be drawn', then that would have been the clear answer. But since there are options which holds true for 2 of our conclusions (4&5) , we can say that both follows rather than saying neither follows.
2. Some pencils are papers, 3. Some papers are pencils, 4. Some Pens are pencils and 5. Some pens are papers. Now, has the option been 'no conclusion can be drawn', then that would have been the clear answer. But since there are options which holds true for 2 of our conclusions (4&5) , we can say that both follows rather than saying neither follows.
Shakambhari said:
1 decade ago
With the help of Venn diagram we got the correct answer without any doubt.
Yamshi said:
1 decade ago
The middle term of the premise is not distributed so no conclusion can be drawn.
Venky said:
1 decade ago
Simply saying : all pens are pencils and the sentence "Some pens are pencils "should be wrong.
Raktim said:
1 decade ago
Shouldn't this be none the of the following as both the conclusion is dependent on one of the statement which should not be the answer.
Vinod said:
1 decade ago
From the syllogism rules the middle must be distributed at least once to draw the conclusion. But in this case the middle term is not distributed so we can't conclude from it.
Vik said:
1 decade ago
Some papers are pens.("I") - isn't M(pens) distributed there? as I understand M is not distributed in "A" and "O".
Abdul said:
1 decade ago
Since the "Middle Term" of the given two statements is not distributed. Hence Neither of the conclusion follows.
(or)
Clearly, since both premises are particular, no conclusion follows.
Condition: The Middle Term (M) should be distributed at least once in the premises, the conclusion cannot follow.
Condition: If both premises are particular, no conclusion follows.
(or)
Clearly, since both premises are particular, no conclusion follows.
Condition: The Middle Term (M) should be distributed at least once in the premises, the conclusion cannot follow.
Condition: If both premises are particular, no conclusion follows.
Mou said:
1 decade ago
The answer should be D since the middle term is not distributed.
Devendra said:
1 decade ago
Option D will be correct why because middle term in both cases are not distributed, at least in one premises it should be distributed.
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