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Discussion Forum : Thermodynamics - Section 2 (Q.No. 36)
36.
Otto cycle efficiency is higher than Diesel cycle efficiency for the same compression ratio and heat input because in Otto cycle
Discussion:
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Dheeraj Kumar said:
8 months ago
Of the options listed, the most direct reason for the Otto cycle's higher efficiency (compared to Diesel with the same compression ratio and heat input) is:
Combustion is at constant volume.
Here's why this is the key factor:
Rapid Temperature Rise: Constant volume combustion in the Otto cycle causes a very rapid and significant increase in temperature. This high peak temperature allows for a more efficient conversion of heat energy into work.
Higher Average: The higher peak temperature also leads to a higher average temperature during the expansion stroke. This results in less heat being wasted and rejected during the exhaust stroke.
While the other options are relevant to the Otto cycle, they don't directly explain its higher efficiency compared to the Diesel cycle:
Expansion and compression are isentropic: This is an idealization in both Otto and Diesel cycles. In reality, there are always some losses due to friction and heat transfer.
Maximum temperature is higher: This is a consequence of constant volume combustion, not the primary reason for the efficiency difference.
Heat rejection is lower: This is also a result of the higher peak and average temperatures caused by constant volume combustion.
In summary: The core reason for the Otto cycle's higher efficiency (under the given conditions) is the constant volume combustion, which leads to a rapid temperature rise and a higher average temperature during the cycle.
Combustion is at constant volume.
Here's why this is the key factor:
Rapid Temperature Rise: Constant volume combustion in the Otto cycle causes a very rapid and significant increase in temperature. This high peak temperature allows for a more efficient conversion of heat energy into work.
Higher Average: The higher peak temperature also leads to a higher average temperature during the expansion stroke. This results in less heat being wasted and rejected during the exhaust stroke.
While the other options are relevant to the Otto cycle, they don't directly explain its higher efficiency compared to the Diesel cycle:
Expansion and compression are isentropic: This is an idealization in both Otto and Diesel cycles. In reality, there are always some losses due to friction and heat transfer.
Maximum temperature is higher: This is a consequence of constant volume combustion, not the primary reason for the efficiency difference.
Heat rejection is lower: This is also a result of the higher peak and average temperatures caused by constant volume combustion.
In summary: The core reason for the Otto cycle's higher efficiency (under the given conditions) is the constant volume combustion, which leads to a rapid temperature rise and a higher average temperature during the cycle.
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Saurabh said:
7 years ago
I agree @Prince.
If we plot pv diagram- we see for same compression ratio the maximum temperature achieved by the Otto cycle is higher than that of diesel cycle. Also, there is no such difference can be determined unless it is not given in case of cont Volume heat rejection.
If we plot pv diagram- we see for same compression ratio the maximum temperature achieved by the Otto cycle is higher than that of diesel cycle. Also, there is no such difference can be determined unless it is not given in case of cont Volume heat rejection.
Saurabh said:
7 years ago
I agree @Prince.
If we plot PV diagram- we see for same compression ratio the maximum temperature achieved by the Otto cycle is higher than that of diesel cycle. Also, there is no such difference can be determined unless it is not given in case of cont Volume heat rejection.
If we plot PV diagram- we see for same compression ratio the maximum temperature achieved by the Otto cycle is higher than that of diesel cycle. Also, there is no such difference can be determined unless it is not given in case of cont Volume heat rejection.
Saurabh said:
7 years ago
I agree @Prince. If we plot PV diagram- we see for same compression ratio the maximum temperature achieved by the Otto cycle is higher than that of diesel cycle. Also, there is no such difference can be determined unless it is not given in case of cont Volume heat rejection.
Prakash said:
6 years ago
Condition is given the same compression ratio and heat input so the comparison would be done on Q2 i.e. Heat rejection. Lower Q2 means higher efficiency. Q2 Otto is less than that of diesel so efficiency of Otto is high. Option D is correct.
Prince said:
9 years ago
I think the answer should be C because max temperature is higher in otto cycle than the Diesel cycle keeping the compression ratio same and also we could not say anything about temperature if we, please comment to know about it.
Love said:
1 decade ago
Since rejection of heat takes place at lower temperatures, comparing its equation with carnot cycle, the efficiency is more as in diesel engines rejection of heat takes place at higher temp. than otto cycle.
Dhrupat said:
7 years ago
@Prince.
As we know about petrol. It has a lower flash point, so there is a low temperature at heat addition time. The given answer is correct.
As we know about petrol. It has a lower flash point, so there is a low temperature at heat addition time. The given answer is correct.
Navaneeth said:
1 decade ago
According to question Otto cycle is efficient, but practically diesel has more comparison ratio, so it has more efficiency.
Vinod said:
4 years ago
@Prakash.
I agree with your point and D is the Correct answer.
I agree with your point and D is the Correct answer.
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