# Logical Reasoning - Statement and Argument - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Statement and Argument - Section 1 (Q.No. 4)
Directions to Solve

Each question given below consists of a statement, followed by two arguments numbered I and II. You have to decide which of the arguments is a 'strong' argument and which is a 'weak' argument.

• (A) If only argument I is strong
• (B) If only argument II is strong
• (C) If either I or II is strong
• (D) If neither I nor II is strong and
• (E) If both I and II are strong.

4.

Statement: Should there be students union in college/university?

Arguments:

1. No. This will create a political atmosphere in the campus.
2. Yes, it is very necessary Students are future political leaders.
Only argument I is strong
Only argument II is strong
Either I or II is strong
Neither I nor II is strong
Both I and II are strong
Explanation:
The students union formation shall be a step towards giving to students the basic education in the field of politics. However, it shall create the same political atmosphere in the campus. Thus, both the arguments hold strong.
Discussion:
23 comments Page 1 of 3.

Anshuman Sethy said:   7 years ago
@ALL.

If anybody wants to be a politician there is no need of gain political experience in college. Politician means to serve the people by heart either in a state or country. PM Modi says think to do something rather than thinking of achieving something. If students gain political experience in colleges to do politics in future rather than thinking of serving the people. There is no need of such politicians. Thus arg 2 is not correct. Students unions are generally made to manage and reach student's problem or opinion to the college authority by the union leader. But now many of the universities do politics by group separation or division.

So that disturbances happen in studies and college environment is fully disturbed. So I think argument 1 is fully correct.

SIDDHARTH CHANDEL said:   7 years ago
Argument 1: Only Mentions it will lead to form political environment, but doesn't link how? Certainly, there is a reasonable doubt. So Argument 1 doesn't follow.

Argument 2: Provides an established fact, that the students are/will be future political leaders. But again it doesn't directly link to setting up of the student union.

Both the arguments are WEAK.

Actually, if the QUESTION / STATEMENT have been put up like - Should elections be held among students in college/university?

Arguments 1 & 2 may had followed!

Faraz Arif said:   7 years ago
I don't think Statement 1 follows, but I think Statement 2 does. Statement 1 is fairly vague and the creation of a political atmosphere (even if it does happen) does not necessarily have to be a bad thing (and it's been stated in a very negative sense here). Statement 2 is a general argument that is presented time and again as a universal truth. Students (if not all of them) are still the ones who shall form the political leadership for the future. Hence, I believe that only Statement 2 is a viable option.

As for me - neither argument is strong. Very often unions are made (and financed by the uni) to let the students solve some of their problems emerged in the course of education, so it is some sort of administrative university duties delegated to studs, which has little connection to politics (yep, the president of union is elected, but it is just a sort of funny game for a short period of time).

Ayaz Ali Phulpoto said:   1 decade ago
Politics is a key of all crimes so it should not allow in educational institutions. However, it also should not allow in Government Sectors/divisions because it creates groups/divisions among students in Educational institutions and Government Sectors.

So the argument no 1 is correct it is as that the politics creates political atmosphere over these institutions that can be danger or harmful.

Yes. I agree that neither of the statement is strong.

We cannot consider the political atmosphere that the formation of student union creates, as the purpose for forming it is totally different that is to address the various problems of college students.

Also, it may be necessary but certainly not "VERY NECESSARY" as it is mentioned in the second statement.

What the question wants to know is that having a student in college/ university is desirable or not? Argument 1 is not strong, since having Union would not DIRECTLY lead to creating political atmosphere. 2 Argument is also not strong enough. Vice versa. Moreover, base on the all comments. :D.

Arindam said:   4 years ago
Both arg 1 and arg 2 are both strong. But the problem exists in choosing the correct option, as basically in this sort of question the option is either 1 or 2, but here it is given both. In my opinion, both the argument have different direction respectively. Both are practically possible.
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