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Discussion Forum : Strength of Materials - Section 5 (Q.No. 26)
26.
The cross sections of the beams of equal length are a circle and a square whose permissible bending stress are same under same maximum bending. The ratio of their flexural weights is,
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Raj said:
4 years ago
@Devendra Singh
The SECTION MODULUS FOR CIRCLE IS (π*d^3/32) polar sec mod is (π*d^3/16) so the correct answer is 0.589.
The SECTION MODULUS FOR CIRCLE IS (π*d^3/32) polar sec mod is (π*d^3/16) so the correct answer is 0.589.
Vipin sainath said:
5 years ago
Section Modulus of Circle/Square gives the ratio of flexural weight.
Note: The C/S areas are same, So take Circle Diameter = 1.27m and Side of Sq = 1m, shall have the same area of cross-section
Zcircle = &P;i d^3/32.
Zsquare = bd^2 / 6.
Finally, Zcircle/Zsquare = 1.1189.
Note: The C/S areas are same, So take Circle Diameter = 1.27m and Side of Sq = 1m, shall have the same area of cross-section
Zcircle = &P;i d^3/32.
Zsquare = bd^2 / 6.
Finally, Zcircle/Zsquare = 1.1189.
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Nishkarsha Dawadi said:
6 years ago
Since the density and length is same for two beams, the flexural weight now varies with their X-sectional area. So, we now have to find the ration of Ac/As.
Also we have,
M=Z*sigma.
M and sigma are the same for two beams, so the section modulus Z also should be the same for two beams.
i.e, Zcircle = Zsquare.
or, Pi*r^3 /4 = b^3 /6.
or, pi* {sq.root(Ac/pi)}^3 /4 = {sq.root (As)}^3 /6.
after simplifying, we get;
Ac/As = (2/3*pi^1/3)^2/3 = 1.11769.
Which makes (A) the right answer.
Also we have,
M=Z*sigma.
M and sigma are the same for two beams, so the section modulus Z also should be the same for two beams.
i.e, Zcircle = Zsquare.
or, Pi*r^3 /4 = b^3 /6.
or, pi* {sq.root(Ac/pi)}^3 /4 = {sq.root (As)}^3 /6.
after simplifying, we get;
Ac/As = (2/3*pi^1/3)^2/3 = 1.11769.
Which makes (A) the right answer.
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Roshni said:
6 years ago
Flexural weight = density *volume.
Density and length are the same, so the ratio of flexural weight comes to be the ratio of their area.
Wcircle/Wsquare = ( (pi*d^2) /4) / a^2.
Now, to find the ratio of d^2/a^2, we use the condition same bending stress.
Bending stress=My/I, where M is the same for both, so this becomes section modulus of the circle equals section modulus of the square. And find the relation among d and a, substitute in the weight equation above the answer comes to be the option (A).
Density and length are the same, so the ratio of flexural weight comes to be the ratio of their area.
Wcircle/Wsquare = ( (pi*d^2) /4) / a^2.
Now, to find the ratio of d^2/a^2, we use the condition same bending stress.
Bending stress=My/I, where M is the same for both, so this becomes section modulus of the circle equals section modulus of the square. And find the relation among d and a, substitute in the weight equation above the answer comes to be the option (A).
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Sunn said:
6 years ago
Could not understand it. Please explain in detail.
Devendra singh said:
6 years ago
Stress the same relationship sectional modulus ratio.
Circle sectional modulus= &pi& * d^3/16.sovle .19625.
Square z = d^3/6. Solve 1/6=.1667.
Ratio = .19625/.1667 = 1.118.
Circle sectional modulus= &pi& * d^3/16.sovle .19625.
Square z = d^3/6. Solve 1/6=.1667.
Ratio = .19625/.1667 = 1.118.
Kiran said:
6 years ago
Can anyone explain the solution?
Usman Khan said:
7 years ago
Please anyone explain the solution.
Mohit said:
7 years ago
0.894 is the approximate value.
Naren said:
8 years ago
What is meant by flexural weight?
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