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Discussion Forum : Steel Structure Design - Section 1 (Q.No. 1)
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The effective length of a compression member of length L held in position and restrained in direction at one end and effectively restrained in direction but not held in position at the other end, is
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KAVISH SRIVASTAVA said:
1 decade ago
The question is incorrect or incomplete because it has not mention whether to tell - theoretical or recommended value of effective length. As per theoretical value of effective length the answer will be "l". But. As per recommended value of effective length the answer will be "1.2l".
On other hand this question can be considered a tricky one, since the optional value "0.67l" and "0.85l" doesn't exist in place it is "0.65l" and "0.8l". Moreover "1.5l" couldn't b the answer since there is no where mention the partially restrained against rotation condition.
So this is also incorrect. "2l" can also not b the correct one because your its only applicable for 2 conditions for which you can refer your book or notes.
Thank you!
On other hand this question can be considered a tricky one, since the optional value "0.67l" and "0.85l" doesn't exist in place it is "0.65l" and "0.8l". Moreover "1.5l" couldn't b the answer since there is no where mention the partially restrained against rotation condition.
So this is also incorrect. "2l" can also not b the correct one because your its only applicable for 2 conditions for which you can refer your book or notes.
Thank you!
Ranku Biswas said:
6 years ago
@All.
I will explain this in easy way;
Held in position= it can't move.
+
Restrained in direction = can't rotate
= fixed one end.
Effectively Restrained in direction = can't rotate.
+
Not held in position = it can move.
= roller.
Therefore support conditions are one end fixed and another one roller.
Theoretical value is 1 and the recommended value is 1.2.
I will explain this in easy way;
Held in position= it can't move.
+
Restrained in direction = can't rotate
= fixed one end.
Effectively Restrained in direction = can't rotate.
+
Not held in position = it can move.
= roller.
Therefore support conditions are one end fixed and another one roller.
Theoretical value is 1 and the recommended value is 1.2.
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MD IRFAN ALAM said:
5 years ago
In IS-456:2000(Table-28) for the given condition.
Theoretical value of L (eff) = L.
Recommended value of L (eff) = 1.2 L.
As per IS :800;2007(Table-11).
L(eff)=1.0L.
Hence given Answer is absolutely correct.
Theoretical value of L (eff) = L.
Recommended value of L (eff) = 1.2 L.
As per IS :800;2007(Table-11).
L(eff)=1.0L.
Hence given Answer is absolutely correct.
Harsh Shukla said:
5 years ago
One end fixed other end Restricted in rotation but not held in position.
Theoretical (SOM) = 1.0L.
Recommended (RCC) = 1.2L.
Since, 1.2 L is not in option hence L will be the answer. Answer (A) is correct.
Theoretical (SOM) = 1.0L.
Recommended (RCC) = 1.2L.
Since, 1.2 L is not in option hence L will be the answer. Answer (A) is correct.
Vikash said:
8 years ago
Ans [D].
When both end of a column is restraint and one end is not in position then effective length may be 1.5L or 1.2L conditionally but according to options 1.5L will be the answer.
When both end of a column is restraint and one end is not in position then effective length may be 1.5L or 1.2L conditionally but according to options 1.5L will be the answer.
Ashok Kumar said:
1 decade ago
Effectively held in position and restrained against the rotation at one end and the other end is restrained against the rotation but not held in position:
Effective length = 0.80 L.
Effective length = 0.80 L.
Binita ekka said:
1 decade ago
In any steel structure book recommended vale is given but theoretical is not mentioned. So by default we will understand that recommended value is asked. Recommended value is 1.2L.
HIMANSHU said:
1 decade ago
Effectively held in position and restrained against rotation at one end, and at the other end restrained against rotation but not held in position.
Effective length = 1.2 L.
Effective length = 1.2 L.
Suman said:
6 years ago
Ans should be 1.2L as one end is fixed and other end is allowed to move in horizontal direction only so as per IS 800:1984 Clause 5.2.2 the ans should be 1.2L.
Sumit Meena said:
10 years ago
In IS-456:2000 for the given condition.
Theoretical value of L (eff) = L.
Recommended value of L (eff) = 1.2 L.
Hence given Answer is absolutely correct!
Theoretical value of L (eff) = L.
Recommended value of L (eff) = 1.2 L.
Hence given Answer is absolutely correct!
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