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Discussion Forum : Highway Engineering - Section 1 (Q.No. 5)
5.
The total length of a valley formed by two gradients - 3% and + 2% curve between the two tangent points to provide a rate of change of centrifugal acceleration 0.6 m/sec2, for a design speed 100 km ph, is
16.0 m
42.3 m
84.6 m
none of these.
Answer: Option
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Discussion:
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Alik Biswas said:   1 decade ago
We Know, L= 2*(N*v^3/c)^0.5 (Length of valley curve).

Here, N = 2%-(-3%) (Algebraic difference in grades).
= 5% Or 0.05.

v = 100 km/hr or 27.778 m/sec (Design Speed).
c = 0.6 m/sec3 (Centrifugal acceleration).

Therefore, L= 2*(0.05*27.778^3/0.6)^0.5 = 84.53 m.

Say,84.60 m ([C] is the correct answer.

David Bielstein said:   8 years ago
I thought the centrifugal acceleration at the beginning of a parabolic curve would be 0 m/sec^2, increasing to the maximum acceleration at the point directly above or below the PI, and then back to 0.

Is 0.6 m/sec^2 assumed to be the maximum instantaneous centrifugal acceleration?
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Elsadig Ahmed Ali said:   9 years ago
V = 1000 km/hr = 27.8 m/s.
N = 5%.
C = .6.

L = 2 * ((N * V^3) / C)^.5,
L = 2 * ((.05 * 27.8^3) / .6)^.5,
L = 2 * ((.05 * 21484.952) / .6)^.5,
L = 2 * (1074.2 / .6)^.5,
L = 2 * (1790.3)^.5,
L = 2 * 42.3.
L = 84.6.
(1)

Ayebare Junior jeezy said:   9 years ago
If V is the speed =100km/hr.
Difference in grades = A = (m - n).
= (-3 - 2) = 5% of acceleration
= 0.6.

But V =100 x 1000/60 x 60 = 27.8m/s.
L = 2*(aV^3)^0.5.
=((2)*0.05 x 27.8^3/0.6)^0.5).
= 84.53m.

Sangla bagang said:   3 years ago
It should be option D. 84.54m only satisfies the comfort criteria, and the actual length of the curve should satisfy min. So, the sight distance criteria i.e 210.21m.
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Shahbaz Bashir said:   7 years ago
N is the difference between raising gradient and falling gradient i.e N = n1 - n2 and also falling gradient = negative (-) similarly raising gradient =positive (+).
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Farouq algradi said:   12 months ago
L = 2 * √(N * (V^3)/c)
N = |N2-N1| = |-0.03-0.02| = |-0.05|
= 0.05.

V = 100kmph = 100 * 1000/(60*60)
= 27.7m/s.
L = 2 * √(0.05*(27.7^3)/0.6),
= 84.52m.
(5)

Elsadig Ahmed Ali said:   9 years ago
@Samm.
N = |n2 - n1| = |-3 - 2| =|-3 + -2| = |-5| = 5.

@Ravindra.
C = centrifugal acceleration = 0.6 m/s^2.

Rishabh said:   10 years ago
L is the length of valley curve.

And this formula is applicable in this case only 2(Nv^3/c)^0.5.

Samm said:   9 years ago
But N is not a difference in grade, it is deviation angle in radians. Please clarify this.


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