Aptitude - Problems on Trains - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Problems on Trains - Data Sufficiency 1 (Q.No. 1)
Directions to Solve

Each of the questions given below consists of a statement and / or a question and two statements numbered I and II given below it. You have to decide whether the data provided in the statement(s) is / are sufficient to answer the given question. Read the both statements and

  • Give answer (A) if the data in Statement I alone are sufficient to answer the question, while the data in Statement II alone are not sufficient to answer the question.
  • Give answer (B) if the data in Statement II alone are sufficient to answer the question, while the data in Statement I alone are not sufficient to answer the question.
  • Give answer (C) if the data either in Statement I or in Statement II alone are sufficient to answer the question.
  • Give answer (D) if the data even in both Statements I and II together are not sufficient to answer the question.
  • Give answer(E) if the data in both Statements I and II together are necessary to answer the question.

1.

What is the speed of the train whose length is 210 metres?

I. 

The train crosses another train (Howrah Express/12869) of 300 metres length running in opposite direction in 10 seconds.

 II. 

The train crosses another train (Howrah Express/12869) running in the same direction at the speed of 60 km/hr in 30 seconds.

I alone sufficient while II alone not sufficient to answer
II alone sufficient while I alone not sufficient to answer
Either I or II alone sufficient to answer
Both I and II are not sufficient to answer
Both I and II are necessary to answer
Answer: Option
Explanation:

Time taken to cross the train,
running in opposite directions
= (l1 + l2) sec.
(u + v)

10 = (210 + 300)
(u + v)

   u + v = 51.

Time taken to cross the train, running in same direction = (l1 + l2) sec.
(u - v)

30 = (210 + 300)
(u - 60 x (5/18))

u = 17 + 50 m/sec.
3

Thus, u and v can be obtained.

Correct answer is (E).

Discussion:
45 comments Page 4 of 5.

Sourav Saha said:   1 decade ago
In the problem using statement I we can find out the sum of the speeds of both the train u+v=51 -- (1) and can't we use the speed of the second train i.e. 60 km/hr and replace it in equation 1?

The results are 103/3 by replacing. And 101/3 by following the method given in the site.

Why is this difference in the result?

Janvi said:   1 decade ago
Sorry but I am confuse about this question please can any explain me in detail.

ParthShah said:   1 decade ago
It is very simple. To find out two unknown variable we need two equations. So @Sundar is right.

Raja said:   1 decade ago
@Kausar and @Vivek without knowing the length of the other train how would you find velocity of other train ?

Vivek kumar said:   1 decade ago
Statement 2 is sufficient to find out the velocity of train having length 210m. So given answer is wrong.

Kausar Shamim said:   1 decade ago
According to me option E is not right as statement II alone is needed to find the speed of the train.

Adsam said:   1 decade ago
II alone sufficient since only the speed of 210m train is asked.

Gagan Mathur said:   1 decade ago
One of the trains speed is given. All we have to do is use the formula time to cross each other = (l1+l2)/(u-v).

A.srikanth said:   1 decade ago
What @Sunder said it is right.

And what @GAUTHM KUMAR said is just like he showing his sense of humor. The answer E is correct.

And coming to @Adithya.

With out knowing the length of second train how you are going to find speed of first train ?

Rakshit said:   1 decade ago
We can find speed by Ist statement by using formula s=d/t
d=300+210=510
t=10 sec
s=51m/sec.

Using relative speed formula we can
S1+S2=D1/T
S1=x
S2=51m/sec
D1=210
T=10 sec.


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