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Discussion Forum : Problems on Trains - Data Sufficiency 1 (Q.No. 1)
Directions to Solve

Each of the questions given below consists of a statement and / or a question and two statements numbered I and II given below it. You have to decide whether the data provided in the statement(s) is / are sufficient to answer the given question. Read the both statements and

  • Give answer (A) if the data in Statement I alone are sufficient to answer the question, while the data in Statement II alone are not sufficient to answer the question.
  • Give answer (B) if the data in Statement II alone are sufficient to answer the question, while the data in Statement I alone are not sufficient to answer the question.
  • Give answer (C) if the data either in Statement I or in Statement II alone are sufficient to answer the question.
  • Give answer (D) if the data even in both Statements I and II together are not sufficient to answer the question.
  • Give answer(E) if the data in both Statements I and II together are necessary to answer the question.

1.

What is the speed of the train whose length is 210 metres?

I. 

The train crosses another train (Howrah Express/12869) of 300 metres length running in opposite direction in 10 seconds.

 II. 

The train crosses another train (Howrah Express/12869) running in the same direction at the speed of 60 km/hr in 30 seconds.

I alone sufficient while II alone not sufficient to answer
II alone sufficient while I alone not sufficient to answer
Either I or II alone sufficient to answer
Both I and II are not sufficient to answer
Both I and II are necessary to answer
Answer: Option
Explanation:

Time taken to cross the train,
running in opposite directions
= (l1 + l2) sec.
(u + v)

10 = (210 + 300)
(u + v)

   u + v = 51.

Time taken to cross the train, running in same direction = (l1 + l2) sec.
(u - v)

30 = (210 + 300)
(u - 60 x (5/18))

u = 17 + 50 m/sec.
3

Thus, u and v can be obtained.

Correct answer is (E).

Discussion:
45 comments Page 1 of 5.

ANUSREE said:   3 months ago
Hi all.

I also first doubted that the 2nd alone is enough to find speed. But now I realise that the length of the train is given in 1st statement and we can’t find the speed without that length.

Hence, E is the correct option.
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Nisha Thakkar said:   9 months ago
@All.

We can directly find the speed of the first train by using the formula speed of the first train = relative speed + speed of the second train.

So, statement B alone is sufficient, therefore option B is right.
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Rashi said:   2 years ago
The first train crosses the 2nd train running at a speed of 60 kmph so we've to find you and hence we would be 60 kmph.

So, firstly we'll take for same direction of the train formula to equate as equation (i) and then another opposite direction formula to equate as equation (ii) then combine these 2 eqs.

We'll get to have both the statements required to find out you.

Hence (e) is the correct option because it needs both statements to evaluate the answer which is "u" i.e., the speed of the first train.
(3)

Aditya Panchal said:   2 years ago
The train crosses another train (Howrah Express/12869) running in the same direction at the speed of 60 km/hr in 30 seconds.

Here, there is one mistake. By reading the above statement, we find that the first train is crossing the other train at 60 km/hr. And they have taken this speed as 2nd train! How is this possible?

Anyone, please clarify my doubt.
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Amit Kumar Verma said:   2 years ago
By solving the value of the speed of the train (u) is 101/3 and this doesn't satisfy statement 1.

So how the answer will be? Please explain me.
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Vishal saini said:   2 years ago
Both I and II are necessary to answer.

Because statement I is needed to find the II statement.

Through this, we can find the speed of the train which we have to find.

Rakkesh s said:   3 years ago
Statement 1 is not sufficient because we don't know the value of both u&v right in the statement.
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Atchukola Naresh said:   4 years ago
Since in both statement reveals that the another train is "Howrah Express/12869" and its length is 300 meters.

Therefore, we can find the answer with I and II.

If it is not specified (if not included the another trains details specifically) , it may be different trains and different length. In this case, the answer will be "Both I and II are not sufficient to answer".

Hope this will help you a little bit.
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Ramesh Kumar said:   5 years ago
Option E is correct. Because both statements are required for finding out the speed of both trains.

Thanks @Sundar and @Hari.
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Nishanth Mekala said:   6 years ago
The speed of the train can be retrieved from statement 2 alone.
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