Aptitude - Pipes and Cistern - Discussion
Discussion Forum : Pipes and Cistern - General Questions (Q.No. 5)
5.
A tank is filled by three pipes with uniform flow. The first two pipes operating simultaneously fill the tank in the same time during which the tank is filled by the third pipe alone. The second pipe fills the tank 5 hours faster than the first pipe and 4 hours slower than the third pipe. The time required by the first pipe is:
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Suppose, first pipe alone takes x hours to fill the tank .
Then, second and third pipes will take (x -5) and (x - 9) hours respectively to fill the tank.
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1 | + | 1 | = | 1 |
x | (x - 5) | (x - 9) |
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x - 5 + x | = | 1 |
x(x - 5) | (x - 9) |
(2x - 5)(x - 9) = x(x - 5)
x2 - 18x + 45 = 0
(x - 15)(x - 3) = 0
x = 15. [neglecting x = 3]
Discussion:
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Nehal said:
8 years ago
By taking pipe b=x.
Then,
For others, it will be ...(x+5) for a.
And (x-4) for c.
Eq: 1/(x+5) +1/(x)=1/(x-4).
After solving ans comes as x=10.
Is it correct?
Then,
For others, it will be ...(x+5) for a.
And (x-4) for c.
Eq: 1/(x+5) +1/(x)=1/(x-4).
After solving ans comes as x=10.
Is it correct?
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NAGARJUNA said:
7 years ago
Can anyone help me?
If suppose A and B are filling a tank started at same time.
A alone can fill it in 'a' minutes B alone can fill it in 'b' minutes.
So we are taking (1/a)+(1/b)=1 to find the time.
But when they are filling it simultaneously why are we taking same (1/x+1/x-5=1/x-9)?
I think after completion of a ,b is started it means we have to take a+b right? But not (1/a)+(1/b).
If suppose A and B are filling a tank started at same time.
A alone can fill it in 'a' minutes B alone can fill it in 'b' minutes.
So we are taking (1/a)+(1/b)=1 to find the time.
But when they are filling it simultaneously why are we taking same (1/x+1/x-5=1/x-9)?
I think after completion of a ,b is started it means we have to take a+b right? But not (1/a)+(1/b).
NAGARJUNA said:
7 years ago
Can anyone help me?
If suppose A and B are filling a tank started at same time.
A alone can fill it in 'a' minutes B alone can fill it in 'b' minutes.
So we are taking (1/a)+(1/b)=1 to find the time.
But when they are filling it simultaneously why are we taking same (1/x+1/x-5=1/x-9)?
I think after completion of a ,b is started it means we have to take a+b right? But not (1/a)+(1/b).
If suppose A and B are filling a tank started at same time.
A alone can fill it in 'a' minutes B alone can fill it in 'b' minutes.
So we are taking (1/a)+(1/b)=1 to find the time.
But when they are filling it simultaneously why are we taking same (1/x+1/x-5=1/x-9)?
I think after completion of a ,b is started it means we have to take a+b right? But not (1/a)+(1/b).
Seenam goel said:
7 years ago
Let us suppose, The 2nd pipe can fill the tank in X hrs.
Hence, 1st pipe will take (X-5)hrs.
& , 3rd pipe will take (X+4)hrs.
Now, acc to the question.
work done by 1st and 2nd pipe together = work done by 3rd pipe alone.
Hence, 1/(x-5)+1/x =1/(x+4) ;
after solving the above part we will get a quadratic equation,
i.e. x^2+8x-20=0 ;
After solving the quadratic equation we get,
x=2 & x= -10 as the result and we can see that both of them are not adequate.
Hence, acc to me there is a problem with the data given in the question.
So, DATA IS INADEQUATE.
Hence, 1st pipe will take (X-5)hrs.
& , 3rd pipe will take (X+4)hrs.
Now, acc to the question.
work done by 1st and 2nd pipe together = work done by 3rd pipe alone.
Hence, 1/(x-5)+1/x =1/(x+4) ;
after solving the above part we will get a quadratic equation,
i.e. x^2+8x-20=0 ;
After solving the quadratic equation we get,
x=2 & x= -10 as the result and we can see that both of them are not adequate.
Hence, acc to me there is a problem with the data given in the question.
So, DATA IS INADEQUATE.
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Swapnil said:
7 years ago
1/x + 1/ (x-5) = 1/(x-9).
Why 1/(x-9) equate with 1/x + 1/ (x-5)?
Why 1/(x-9) equate with 1/x + 1/ (x-5)?
Pankaj said:
7 years ago
A+B = C.
Now,
Let A pipe fill the tank in =X hr.
2nd pipe 5 hr slower than A,
B = (X-5) hr
3rd pipe 4 hr slower than B,
C= X- (5+4) hr = (X-9) hr.
LCM Of (A+B) is;
A= X
X(X-5) LCM.
B=X-5.
A's 1hr work= X(X-5)/X = X-5.
B's 1hr work= X(X-5)/(X-5) = X.
_______________________________
A+B. = 2X-5
_________________________________
A+B =C.
X(x-5)/2x-5 = x-9,
X^2-5x/2x-5 = x-9 cross multiple,
2x^2-5x-18x+45 = x^2-5x (5x cancel out),
2x^2-18x+45,x^2 = 0,
X^2-18x+45 = 0,
X^2-(15+3)x+45= 0,
X^2-15x-3x+45 = 0,
X(x-15) - 3(x-15) = 0,
(X-15) (x-3) = 0,
Ans= 15 hr.
Now,
Let A pipe fill the tank in =X hr.
2nd pipe 5 hr slower than A,
B = (X-5) hr
3rd pipe 4 hr slower than B,
C= X- (5+4) hr = (X-9) hr.
LCM Of (A+B) is;
A= X
X(X-5) LCM.
B=X-5.
A's 1hr work= X(X-5)/X = X-5.
B's 1hr work= X(X-5)/(X-5) = X.
_______________________________
A+B. = 2X-5
_________________________________
A+B =C.
X(x-5)/2x-5 = x-9,
X^2-5x/2x-5 = x-9 cross multiple,
2x^2-5x-18x+45 = x^2-5x (5x cancel out),
2x^2-18x+45,x^2 = 0,
X^2-18x+45 = 0,
X^2-(15+3)x+45= 0,
X^2-15x-3x+45 = 0,
X(x-15) - 3(x-15) = 0,
(X-15) (x-3) = 0,
Ans= 15 hr.
Nita said:
6 years ago
If we subject pipe 3 (P3) = x.
Then pipe 2 (P2) = x+4 (since P2 is 4 hours slower than P3 )
And Pipe 1 ( P1) = ( x+4)+5= x+9 (since P1 is 5 hours slower than P2; indirectly implied in the question).
So, the question becomes;
1/(x+9) + 1/ (x +4) = 1/ x.
Solving the equation we get x =+6,-6;
Taking x=+6.
Then pipe1 = (x +9) = 6+9=> 15.
Then pipe 2 (P2) = x+4 (since P2 is 4 hours slower than P3 )
And Pipe 1 ( P1) = ( x+4)+5= x+9 (since P1 is 5 hours slower than P2; indirectly implied in the question).
So, the question becomes;
1/(x+9) + 1/ (x +4) = 1/ x.
Solving the equation we get x =+6,-6;
Taking x=+6.
Then pipe1 = (x +9) = 6+9=> 15.
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Trinesh said:
6 years ago
Why it take x-5?
The second pipe fills the tank 5 hours faster than the first pipe so there will be X+5.
The second pipe fills the tank 5 hours faster than the first pipe so there will be X+5.
(4)
Harshvardhan said:
6 years ago
Simple if we take X time taken by pipe 2 then,
Time is taken by first pipe 1 = X+5.
Time is taken by second pipe 2 = X.
Time is taken by third pipe 3 = X-4.
So as per the question,
Pipe 1 +pipe 2 = pipe 3.
1/(X+5) + X = 1/(X-4).
After solving this equation we will get X=10.
Then, we know that time taken by pipe 1 = X+5.
Simply put the X=10, so pipe 1 will take =15 hours.
Time is taken by first pipe 1 = X+5.
Time is taken by second pipe 2 = X.
Time is taken by third pipe 3 = X-4.
So as per the question,
Pipe 1 +pipe 2 = pipe 3.
1/(X+5) + X = 1/(X-4).
After solving this equation we will get X=10.
Then, we know that time taken by pipe 1 = X+5.
Simply put the X=10, so pipe 1 will take =15 hours.
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Saimanasa said:
5 years ago
Thank you @Manasa.
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