Aptitude - Pipes and Cistern - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Pipes and Cistern - General Questions (Q.No. 5)
5.
A tank is filled by three pipes with uniform flow. The first two pipes operating simultaneously fill the tank in the same time during which the tank is filled by the third pipe alone. The second pipe fills the tank 5 hours faster than the first pipe and 4 hours slower than the third pipe. The time required by the first pipe is:
6 hours
10 hours
15 hours
30 hours
Answer: Option
Explanation:

Suppose, first pipe alone takes x hours to fill the tank .

Then, second and third pipes will take (x -5) and (x - 9) hours respectively to fill the tank.

1 + 1 = 1
x (x - 5) (x - 9)

x - 5 + x = 1
x(x - 5) (x - 9)

(2x - 5)(x - 9) = x(x - 5)

x2 - 18x + 45 = 0

(x - 15)(x - 3) = 0

x = 15.    [neglecting x = 3]

Discussion:
68 comments Page 2 of 7.

Trinesh said:   6 years ago
Why it take x-5?

The second pipe fills the tank 5 hours faster than the first pipe so there will be X+5.
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Nita said:   6 years ago
If we subject pipe 3 (P3) = x.

Then pipe 2 (P2) = x+4 (since P2 is 4 hours slower than P3 )
And Pipe 1 ( P1) = ( x+4)+5= x+9 (since P1 is 5 hours slower than P2; indirectly implied in the question).

So, the question becomes;

1/(x+9) + 1/ (x +4) = 1/ x.
Solving the equation we get x =+6,-6;
Taking x=+6.
Then pipe1 = (x +9) = 6+9=> 15.
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Pankaj said:   7 years ago
A+B = C.

Now,

Let A pipe fill the tank in =X hr.
2nd pipe 5 hr slower than A,
B = (X-5) hr
3rd pipe 4 hr slower than B,
C= X- (5+4) hr = (X-9) hr.
LCM Of (A+B) is;

A= X
X(X-5) LCM.
B=X-5.

A's 1hr work= X(X-5)/X = X-5.
B's 1hr work= X(X-5)/(X-5) = X.
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A+B. = 2X-5
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A+B =C.

X(x-5)/2x-5 = x-9,
X^2-5x/2x-5 = x-9 cross multiple,
2x^2-5x-18x+45 = x^2-5x (5x cancel out),
2x^2-18x+45,x^2 = 0,
X^2-18x+45 = 0,
X^2-(15+3)x+45= 0,
X^2-15x-3x+45 = 0,
X(x-15) - 3(x-15) = 0,
(X-15) (x-3) = 0,
Ans= 15 hr.

Swapnil said:   7 years ago
1/x + 1/ (x-5) = 1/(x-9).

Why 1/(x-9) equate with 1/x + 1/ (x-5)?

Seenam goel said:   7 years ago
Let us suppose, The 2nd pipe can fill the tank in X hrs.

Hence, 1st pipe will take (X-5)hrs.
& , 3rd pipe will take (X+4)hrs.

Now, acc to the question.
work done by 1st and 2nd pipe together = work done by 3rd pipe alone.

Hence, 1/(x-5)+1/x =1/(x+4) ;
after solving the above part we will get a quadratic equation,
i.e. x^2+8x-20=0 ;

After solving the quadratic equation we get,
x=2 & x= -10 as the result and we can see that both of them are not adequate.
Hence, acc to me there is a problem with the data given in the question.

So, DATA IS INADEQUATE.
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NAGARJUNA said:   7 years ago
Can anyone help me?

If suppose A and B are filling a tank started at same time.
A alone can fill it in 'a' minutes B alone can fill it in 'b' minutes.
So we are taking (1/a)+(1/b)=1 to find the time.

But when they are filling it simultaneously why are we taking same (1/x+1/x-5=1/x-9)?
I think after completion of a ,b is started it means we have to take a+b right? But not (1/a)+(1/b).

NAGARJUNA said:   7 years ago
Can anyone help me?

If suppose A and B are filling a tank started at same time.
A alone can fill it in 'a' minutes B alone can fill it in 'b' minutes.
So we are taking (1/a)+(1/b)=1 to find the time.

But when they are filling it simultaneously why are we taking same (1/x+1/x-5=1/x-9)?
I think after completion of a ,b is started it means we have to take a+b right? But not (1/a)+(1/b).

Nehal said:   8 years ago
By taking pipe b=x.
Then,
For others, it will be ...(x+5) for a.
And (x-4) for c.
Eq: 1/(x+5) +1/(x)=1/(x-4).
After solving ans comes as x=10.

Is it correct?
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Pradhyumna said:   8 years ago
Can't we pick the 'B' to be as x and do the same things since When I did I got four first just by generally calculating it?

Rabindra said:   8 years ago
The ratio of performance is A:B;C = 1:5:9 if we take lcm then we get the tank capacity i.e 45litre that means,
1+5+9=45,
15=45,
per hour litre=45/15=3 litre.
A can fill 3 lite per hour and B can 15 lit/hour, C can fill in 27 lit/hour,
so A will take time,
45/3=15 hour.
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