Aptitude - Permutation and Combination - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Permutation and Combination - General Questions (Q.No. 9)
9.
A box contains 2 white balls, 3 black balls and 4 red balls. In how many ways can 3 balls be drawn from the box, if at least one black ball is to be included in the draw?
32
48
64
96
None of these
Answer: Option
Explanation:

We may have(1 black and 2 non-black) or (2 black and 1 non-black) or (3 black).

Required number of ways = (3C1 x 6C2) + (3C2 x 6C1) + (3C3)
= 3 x 6 x 5 + 3 x 2 x 6 + 1
2 x 1 2 x 1
= (45 + 18 + 1)
= 64.

Discussion:
81 comments Page 8 of 9.

Naveen said:   9 years ago
@Pavel Sain: Since the ball of the same colour are identical, you should do ((3C1/3!) * (2C1/2!) * (4C1/4!)) etc.

So either you use the formula or make the individual combinations, the answer will be 6.

Revathy said:   9 years ago
I think Pavel Sain's answer is correct.

Xyz said:   9 years ago
I agree @Vimal.

Balls are to be considered as identical and as one object.

Miles said:   10 years ago
Consider the case where only one black ball is chosen. It could be chosen first second or third so that's 3 possibilities. As for the other two balls, they could be red or white. It could be red then white, white then red, white then white, or red then red, regardless of when the black ball is chosen.

So that's 4 possibilities. So, with only one black ball, that would be 12 possibilities (brw, bwr, brr, bww, rbw, wbr, rbr, wbw, rwb, wrb, rrb, wwb) but the solutions says there are 45 possibilities for this condition. Am I missing something or what?

Sanjay said:   10 years ago
Why not 3C1*8c2?

Prasoon garg said:   10 years ago
I agree with @Mani as it is not mentioned in the question that all the balls are non-identical.

Sundar said:   1 decade ago
We should not take 3 black balls. Then why final declaration 3 ball added?

Pavel Sain said:   1 decade ago
May be we can take (1B+1W+1R) OR (1B+2W) OR (1B+2R) OR (2B+1W) OR (2B+1R) OR all (3B).

So required no = (3C1*2C1*4C1)+(3C1*2C2)+(3C1*4C2)+(3C2*2C1)+(3C2*4C1)+3C3.

= (3*2*4)+(3*1)+(3*6)+(3*2)+(3*4)+1.

= 24+3+18+6+12+1 = 64.

Mukesh said:   1 decade ago
Here you can draw one black ball from x number of black balls in only one way, similarly 2 red balls from x numbers of red balls also in one way for xC2.

So, (3 Black) + (2 Black AND (1 Red OR 1 White)) + (1 Black AND ((2 white OR 2 Red OR (1 White AND 1 Red))).

-> 1 + 1 * 2 + 1 * (1+1+1).

-> 1 + 2 + 3.

-> 6.

Which I believe should be answer, any corrections or clarification most appreciated.

Sasi said:   1 decade ago
I have a doubt. In last question you have given nC(n-r). Why This conditions is not suitable for this?

In this question also why can't we do this as:

= (3C1 x 6C(6-2)) + (3C(3-2) x 6C1) + (3C3).


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