Aptitude - Permutation and Combination - Discussion

Discussion Forum : Permutation and Combination - General Questions (Q.No. 14)
14.
In how many different ways can the letters of the word 'OPTICAL' be arranged so that the vowels always come together?
120
720
4320
2160
None of these
Answer: Option
Explanation:

The word 'OPTICAL' contains 7 different letters.

When the vowels OIA are always together, they can be supposed to form one letter.

Then, we have to arrange the letters PTCL (OIA).

Now, 5 letters can be arranged in 5! = 120 ways.

The vowels (OIA) can be arranged among themselves in 3! = 6 ways.

Required number of ways = (120 x 6) = 720.

Discussion:
36 comments Page 2 of 4.

Mahesh Babu said:   8 years ago
@ Simmie.

You did a mistake the correct procedure is;
Since no vowels come together, first arrange the 4 consonants in 4! ways.
Now, a vowel can be placed at the beginning of the consonants or at the end of the consonants or in between every two consonants.
_C_C_C_C_
They are 5 places to fill 3 vowels,
In these 5 places we can arrange the 3 vowels in 5!/2! ways(5p3 ways),
The number of words in which no vowels come together is,
4!*5!/2!=1440.

Simmie said:   8 years ago
@Sonam.

If non-vowels come together then,

Vowels OIA considering each as different units So its 3 units,
Non-vowels, PTCL as 1 units.
Its 4!=24 because they need to be arranged within themselves.

The vowels and non-vowels together they make 4 units..4!=24(its like consider "PTCL" as "x" ..now arranging them with vowels would be OIAX,OAIX,AIOX,IOAX,IAOX......i.e....4!)

So now,

Vowels and non-vowels = 4! = 24,
Non-vowels = 4! = 24,
24 * 24 = 576.

Shubham mishra said:   8 years ago
Yes, I too have same doubt @Anoushka.

Sonam said:   9 years ago
If the question is asked "no vowels come together" then what will be the answer?

Anoushka said:   9 years ago
Sir I haven't understood why are we taking 5. Instead of 5 we should take 4. As in previous questions also we were taking 8 and not 9.

B.madhan said:   10 years ago
It is very simple.

Given that vowels are come together means = All vowels are comes one place.

Means the word OPTICAL = OIA = 3! = 6 = vowels.

Constants = PTCL = 4! = 24.

(24*6 = 144).

Shanmukh said:   1 decade ago
Hi Anushq,

We consider consonants + (sum of vowels) because in the question he mentioned that all vowels must be kept together.

Mukesh said:   1 decade ago
Can we use the same method in question 13?

Anushq said:   1 decade ago
Hi all,

I have a doubt in questions regarding vowels and consonants. If we arrange all the vowels in one word, it can be in either consonant + (sum of vowels) or (sum of vowels) + consonant. Why all the answers are not considering the second option.

Because if we consider both the case then We need to multiply all the answers * 2. Please let me know if I am wrong.

Navya said:   1 decade ago
Ibidun: A committee of 4 men and 2 women is selected from 10 men and 5 women. If 2 of the men are feuding and will not serve on the committee together, in how many ways can the committee be selected.

Sol: 5c2*9c3 ways.


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