Aptitude - Permutation and Combination - Discussion
Discussion Forum : Permutation and Combination - General Questions (Q.No. 12)
12.
How many 4-letter words with or without meaning, can be formed out of the letters of the word, 'LOGARITHMS', if repetition of letters is not allowed?
Answer: Option
Explanation:
'LOGARITHMS' contains 10 different letters.
| Required number of words | = Number of arrangements of 10 letters, taking 4 at a time. |
| = 10P4 | |
| = (10 x 9 x 8 x 7) | |
| = 5040. |
Discussion:
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Vimal said:
1 decade ago
I am not clear with this. They gave a condition that repetition is not allowed. when we use 10p4, (i.e. is permutation) it satisfy the given condition?
Satish said:
1 decade ago
Please tell me that when we should use permutations and when we should combinations with an example?
Mini said:
1 decade ago
The formula we hv usd here is = n!/(P1!)(P2!)...(Pr!)
Here n=10(no. of letters) and P1,P2.. are the different letters of the word.
Then the no. of permutation of these 10 letters is
= 10!/(1!)(1!)..upto 10th letter [(1!)...upto 10th letter used bcoz each letter occured only once]
= 10*9*8*7 [bcoz we hv to make 4 letter words]
= 5040
Here n=10(no. of letters) and P1,P2.. are the different letters of the word.
Then the no. of permutation of these 10 letters is
= 10!/(1!)(1!)..upto 10th letter [(1!)...upto 10th letter used bcoz each letter occured only once]
= 10*9*8*7 [bcoz we hv to make 4 letter words]
= 5040
Yazhini said:
1 decade ago
! implies that it is a multiplication sign up to 1. It is neither a permutation nor a combination. For ex 4! implies that 4*3*2*1=24. is it clear guy?
Shashwat said:
1 decade ago
Why permutation is used explain?
Vini said:
1 decade ago
Logarithms===> total= 10 alphabets.. okay
we have to form 4-letter words, without repeating the letters.
_ _ _ _
we have place for 4 alphabets
In 1st blank, out of 10, any1 of it can come,so we have 10 choices--->10
In 2nd blank, now,9 letters are left, out of 9 u can choose one---->10*9
In 3rd blank, now 8 left, i.e.--->10*9*8
In 4th blank, any remaining of 7 letters can come---> 10*9*8*7
= 5040
we have to form 4-letter words, without repeating the letters.
_ _ _ _
we have place for 4 alphabets
In 1st blank, out of 10, any1 of it can come,so we have 10 choices--->10
In 2nd blank, now,9 letters are left, out of 9 u can choose one---->10*9
In 3rd blank, now 8 left, i.e.--->10*9*8
In 4th blank, any remaining of 7 letters can come---> 10*9*8*7
= 5040
Motunrayo said:
1 decade ago
Please I want to know when to use combination and permutation.
Lydia said:
1 decade ago
It can also be done in another way.
Number of ways of selecting 4 letters from 10 letters=10C4
=(10*9*8*7)/4!
Number of ways of arranging these 4 letters =4P4=4!
So, total number of words formed= [(10*9*8*7)/4!]*4! = 10*9*8*7 = 5040
Am I correct?
Number of ways of selecting 4 letters from 10 letters=10C4
=(10*9*8*7)/4!
Number of ways of arranging these 4 letters =4P4=4!
So, total number of words formed= [(10*9*8*7)/4!]*4! = 10*9*8*7 = 5040
Am I correct?
Ashutosh Sharma said:
1 decade ago
Which formula is used to solve this problem?
Santhosh said:
1 decade ago
I have so much confusion at the answering problem,
"where we use the permutation formula and combination formula"?
Please anyone tell me.
"where we use the permutation formula and combination formula"?
Please anyone tell me.
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