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Discussion Forum : Numbers - General Questions (Q.No. 46)
46.
In dividing a number by 585, a student employed the method of short division. He divided the number successively by 5, 9 and 13 (factors 585) and got the remainders 4, 8, 12 respectively. If he had divided the number by 585, the remainder would have been
24
144
292
584
Answer: Option
Explanation:
 5 | x                z = 13 x 1 + 12  = 25
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 9 | y - 4            y = 9 x z + 8  = 9 x 25 + 8  = 233
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 13| z - 8            x = 5 x y + 4  = 5 x 233 + 4  = 1169
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   | 1 -12
  
  585) 1169 (1
       585
       ---
       584
       ---
       
  Therefore, on dividing the number by 585, remainder = 584.     
Discussion:
39 comments Page 1 of 4.

Pooja said:   6 years ago
From L.C.M and H.C.F methods
We have two formulas
i.e
1-> To find the greatest number that will divide by x,y&z leaving remainders a,b,c,respectively.

Required no.= H.C.F of(x-a),(y-b)&(z-c).

2->To find the least number which when divided by x,y,z leaves the remainder a,b,c, respectively.
It is always observed that (x-a)=(y-b)=(z-c)=k
Required no.=(L.C.M of x,y&z)-k

But in question, we have not asked for find out the least or greatest number, So by ignoring that least and greatest number,we have to notice on the given dividends and remainders.

Here,
we have 3 dividends and 3 remainder i.e,
Dividends =5,9,13.
Remainders =4,8,12.

Now,we have to substract the remainders of the respective dividends to check if the differences are same then here we apply the L.CM rule but if the differences are different then we will apply the H.C F rule.

But here the differences between every dividend and remainder is same.i.e,
(5-4)=(9-8)=(13-12)=(k)1.

As the differences are same here we apply the formula 1 to find the remainder.
Required number = (L.C.M of x,y&z)-k.
= (L.C.M of 5,9&13)-1,
= 585-1.
= 584 (remainder) answer.
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Rutuja Patil said:   2 years ago
Dividend=divisor*quotient+remainder ------> (A)
Here, n=585*Q+R -----> (1)

Given,
If divided by 5, then remainder = 4, let quotient = x.
Therefore, n=5x+4 -----> (2)

Now if x is divided by 9, then remainder = 8, let quotient=y;
Therefore, x=9y+8 ----->(3)

& if y is divided by 13, then remainder = 12, let quotient=z
Therefore, y=13z+12 -----> (3).

From eq. (2) x=9y+8.
Therefore x = 9 (13z+12)+8 -----> (putting value of z from eq.(3))
x = 117z + 108 + 8
= 117z +116 -------> (5)

put (5) in (2)
we get;
n = 5(117z+116)+4.
= 585 * z +580+4.
n = 585 * z +584.

In above eq;
(refer to formula (A))
divisor= 585,
quotient= z,
& remainder = 584 -->(Answer)
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Saurabh said:   1 decade ago
5-4=1
9-8=1
13-12=1

585-?=1
So the number is 584.
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Manideep said:   1 decade ago
@ Arti

Let the number be x.

Now given x=5a+4, a=9b+8, b=13c+12...

By reverse substitution you get

a = 9(13c + 12) + 8 = (13*9)c + 116

x = 5[(13 * 9)c + 116] + 4 = 585c + 584

So this when divided by 585 you get 584 as reminder.

Thank you :)
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Ankit kumar yadav said:   7 years ago
Hello everyone.

Find reminder this type problem use formula ( 1st reminder + 2nd reminder * 1st factor + 3rd reminder * 1st factor * 2nd factor ) then divided by given number.

Here, ( 4+8*5+12*5*9) /585 = 584/585 = 584 Ans because we know if ( a/a+1 ) then reminder always = a.
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Monica said:   8 years ago
@All.

Successive division means, if a number X is successively divided by say p and q, then first X is divided by p and then the quotient obtained when X is divided by p is then divided by q.

Here let X be the number, since it is successively divided by 5, 9 and 13. We obtain.

X=5q1+4------- (1) (4 is remainder) and then q1 is divided by 9 then.
Q1=9q2+8------- (2) (given 8 is remainder) then.
Q2=13q3+12------ (3) (given 12 is remainder).

Substituting q2 in eq2, we get q1=117q3+116.
Then substituting q1 in equation 1 we get.
X=585q3+584.
Hence 584 is the remainder.

Hope it helps everyone.
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Jael Jefina J said:   8 years ago
There is a shortcut to solve this problem.

If a number (say X), when divided by d1, d2, d3 (either successively or independently) leaves remainders r1, r2, r3 and if (d1 - r1) = (d2 - r2) = (d3 - r3) = k.
then,

X = L.C.M (d1, d2, d3) - k.

From the question.
(d1,d2,d3) = (5,9,13),
(r1,r2,r3) = (4,8,12).
k = 1.
X = L.C.M(5,9,13)-1 = 585-1 = 584.

(584%585) = 584 (i.e. the remainder).
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SMcxlvii said:   9 years ago
Hope, my solution will be logical:

Suppose, the number is G.
According to the question:
G = 5a + 4 [where, a is an integer].
G = 9b + 8 [where, b is an integer].
G = 13c + 12 [where, c is an integer].

Now,
5a + 4 = G.
=> 5a + 5 - 1 = G.
=> 5(a + 1) = G + 1.

9b + 8 = G.
=> 9(b+) = G + 1.

13c + 12 = G.
=> 13(c + 1) = G+1.

Here, [5(a + 1)], [9(b + 1)], and [13(c + 1)] have same value [i.e: (G+1)].
So, the LCM of [5(a + 1)], [9(b + 1)], and [13(c + 1)] will also be (G + 1).

In other words,
LCM of [5(a + 1)], [9(b + 1)], and [13(c + 1)] = 585(a + 1)(b + 1)(c + 1).
So, 585(a + 1)(b + 1)(c + 1) = (G + 1).
Or, G = 585(a + 1)(b + 1)(c + 1) - 1.

Now, The number divided by 585.

=> G/585 = [585(a + 1)(b + 1)(c + 1) - 1]/585.
= [585(a + 1)(b + 1)(c + 1) - 585 + 584]/585.
= [{585(a + 1)(b + 1)(c + 1) - 1} + 584] = {(a + 1)(b + 1)(c + 1) - 1} + 584/585.

Surely {(a + 1)(b + 1)(c + 1) - 1} is an integer. So, the remainder is 584.
Then, the answer is 584.
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Arti said:   1 decade ago
Hi, can any one please explain it I'm not able to understand how's these equation are working. Sorry but Im not able to understand. : (.
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Neelu said:   1 decade ago
Thanku arti. For helping to understand this problem in easy way.
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