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Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 1)
Directions to Solve

In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.

Give answer:

  • (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
  • (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
  • (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
  • (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
  • (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.

1.

Statements: Some actors are singers. All the singers are dancers.

Conclusions:

  1. Some actors are dancers.
  2. No singer is actor.

Only (1) conclusion follows
Only (2) conclusion follows
Either (1) or (2) follows
Neither (1) nor (2) follows
Both (1) and (2) follow
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Discussion:
74 comments Page 2 of 8.

B.Veeranna said:   1 decade ago
Tell me which diagram suitable for answering the question.

Ashish mishra said:   1 decade ago
There is farmula if some + all = some

statement is 1- Some actors are singers.
2- All the singers are dancers.

Than as per rule some will come and singers is comman for both sentences hence that would be cancelled and conlusion will come as ---- some actors are dancers.

Deepthi said:   1 decade ago
let ALL=A,SOME=E
formula
A+A=A
A+E=NO CONCLUSION
E+E=NO CONCLUSION
E+A=E
A-->E (A conversion is E)
E-->E

eg:1.Some actors are singers.
2.All the singers are dancers

as per the rule E+A=E
first see common in both sentences is singers that singers is cancelled then conclusion will comes as some actors are dancers or some dancers are actor or some singers are actors or
some dancers are the singers


eg:1.All books are trees.
2.All trees are lions.
as per the rule A+A=A ,A-->E
then conlusion is All books are lions or some lions are books or some trees are books or some lions are trees

AMRUTHA said:   1 decade ago
HAI DEEPTHI.............THIS IS AMRUTHA
CAN U EXPLAIN BELLOW WHICH IS WRITEN BY U

let ALL=A,SOME=E
formula
A+A=A
A+E=NO CONCLUSION
E+E=NO CONCLUSION
E+A=E
A-->E (A conversion is E)
E-->E

Harmandeep Singh said:   1 decade ago
HAI DEEPTHI.......This is Harmandeep Singh
would u please explain me these term
A-->E (A conversion is E)
E-->E
and as well as in ur 1st example those lines meaning i.e."then conclusion will comes as some actors are dancers or some dancers are actor or some singers are actors or
some dancers are the singers"

eg:1.Some actors are singers.
2.All the singers are dancers

as per the rule E+A=E
first see common in both sentences is singers that singers is cancelled then conclusion will comes as some actors are dancers or some dancers are actor or some singers are actors or
some dancers are the singers


eg:1.All books are trees.
2.All trees are lions.
as per the rule A+A=A ,A-->E
then conlusion is All books are lions or some lions are books or some trees are books or some lions are trees

Dharma29999 said:   1 decade ago
HI, everybody
some tips to crack a syllogisms problems.

We follow the certain rules of syllogisms,
one can solve the venn diagrams and other solved by others method.
but shortcut is very simple.

Example:
some dogs are cats.
all cats are horses.
we follow the rules of syllogisms
some+all= some
and we also cancle the cats, because it is common for both the statement.
condition: 1. all dogs are horses.
2. somes dogs are horses. (answer)
3. some horses are not dogs.
we can always see the condition then solve syllogisms problem
firstly we cancle the cats matching with two statement.
and according to rules we can check (some+all= some) for two sentence syllogisms.
and after we analise some dogs are horses to match the condition.
it the answer.

Monal said:   1 decade ago
@Deepti

First of all I would like 2 thank you both for such wonderful trick.

But what should we do if the ststement contains NO.

Ex: No cats are dogs etc etc.

Mani latha said:   1 decade ago
By seeing Venn diagrams you can't able to get point. If possible tell us in different manner.

Akhil said:   1 decade ago
Very easy. If one is particular definitely conclusion should be particular (particular means come) without middle term.

Dheeraj sri said:   1 decade ago
Can any1 tell in what condition the option ' C ' wl b the answr.? I dint find any qustn here whose answr is C ?


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