Verbal Reasoning - Syllogism - Discussion
Discussion Forum : Syllogism - Syllogism 1 (Q.No. 12)
Directions to Solve
In each of the following questions two statements are given and these statements are followed by two conclusions numbered (1) and (2). You have to take the given two statements to be true even if they seem to be at variance from commonly known facts. Read the conclusions and then decide which of the given conclusions logically follows from the two given statements, disregarding commonly known facts.
Give answer:
- (A) If only (1) conclusion follows
- (B) If only (2) conclusion follows
- (C) If either (1) or (2) follows
- (D) If neither (1) nor (2) follows and
- (E) If both (1) and (2) follow.
12.
Statements: All the trucks are flies. Some scooters are flies.
Conclusions:
- All the trucks are scooters.
- Some scooters are trucks.
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Neither (1) nor (2) follows.
Discussion:
60 comments Page 5 of 6.
Tanvi said:
9 years ago
@Shalu.
I think the second conclusion is doubtful and it may be or may be not.
In the doubtful condition it always wrong.
I think the second conclusion is doubtful and it may be or may be not.
In the doubtful condition it always wrong.
Shalu said:
9 years ago
If we give B as an answer then is it wrong or right?
Please suggest me.
Please suggest me.
Santosh said:
9 years ago
Here we have two situations.
1. If we take the 2nd diagram then option B is correct.
2. If we take the general scenario of syllogism then option D is correct.
1. If we take the 2nd diagram then option B is correct.
2. If we take the general scenario of syllogism then option D is correct.
Surya pratap singh said:
10 years ago
If we reversed all and some then we get (some+all) =some; now conclusion is some trucks are scooters. It is clear that some scooter are trucks.
Anu said:
10 years ago
According to me it is a complementary pair. So the answer should be either or as both the conclusion are wrong. And as said by @Ram what statement says that diagram is only valid and no other possibility should be followed.
Ram said:
1 decade ago
Well, as far as I understand, if there is NO conclusion is given, you have to consider only 1st diagram, this is how they derived answers for all the questions.
Shree said:
1 decade ago
Guys first thing is in syllogism we should not think the regular way.
We are considering both diagrams, imagine I drew the second diagram first. Then I agree the second statement is true.
Now I am thinking of another possibility where it cannot be true, then I drew the first diagram and figured out that it cannot be true always. In syllogism I will only say a statement is true if it is true ALWAYS. If I can deduce a way that it is not then I go with "NOT TRUE".
Let me know if that helps :).
We are considering both diagrams, imagine I drew the second diagram first. Then I agree the second statement is true.
Now I am thinking of another possibility where it cannot be true, then I drew the first diagram and figured out that it cannot be true always. In syllogism I will only say a statement is true if it is true ALWAYS. If I can deduce a way that it is not then I go with "NOT TRUE".
Let me know if that helps :).
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Uday S said:
1 decade ago
I too agree to @Hari prasad. If consider second diagram some of the scooters are trucks. Its very basic if not the second option is correct then we can't judge the question with the second diagram.
Bugs said:
1 decade ago
In some questions we are considering both the statements i.e. either 1 or 2 but in some questions why we are neglecting even though there can be a possibility of such type. Can any one explain this to me?
Sam said:
1 decade ago
If question comes in this way:
-->some+some = no conclusion.
-->no+no = no conclusion.
Without any 2nd thinking answer is neither both follows.
If -->all+all then try to solve by Venn diagrams.
-->some+some = no conclusion.
-->no+no = no conclusion.
Without any 2nd thinking answer is neither both follows.
If -->all+all then try to solve by Venn diagrams.
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