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31.
Two, trains, one from Howrah to Patna and the other from Patna to Howrah, start simultaneously. After they meet, the trains reach their destinations after 9 hours and 16 hours respectively. The ratio of their speeds is:
Answer: Option
Explanation:
Let us name the trains as A and B. Then,
(A's speed) : (B's speed) = b : a = 16 : 9 = 4 : 3.
Discussion:
111 comments Page 3 of 12.
Ajinkya arote said:
6 years ago
Consider first train speed v' & other v"
After meeting point v'=(meeting point to patna)/9 = b/9.
v"=(meeting point to howrah)/16 =a/16
v'/v"=[b/a][16/9] ------> (1)
when train start and meet each other
time taken is same ie. T.
v'= (howrah to meeting point)/T = a/T.
v"=(patna to meeting point)/T = b/T.
then from above eq. v'/v"=a/b -----> (2)put in eq. 1.
From eq. 1;
v'/v" = (v"/v')[16/9].
v'^2/v"^2 = 16/9.
v'/v" = 4/3.
After meeting point v'=(meeting point to patna)/9 = b/9.
v"=(meeting point to howrah)/16 =a/16
v'/v"=[b/a][16/9] ------> (1)
when train start and meet each other
time taken is same ie. T.
v'= (howrah to meeting point)/T = a/T.
v"=(patna to meeting point)/T = b/T.
then from above eq. v'/v"=a/b -----> (2)put in eq. 1.
From eq. 1;
v'/v" = (v"/v')[16/9].
v'^2/v"^2 = 16/9.
v'/v" = 4/3.
(7)
Rajesh reddy said:
6 years ago
Let us take both trains to meet after time t.
And the speed of train A and B as x and y.
So now whatever distance covered by train A in time t is covered by train B in 16 hours.
So x*t = y*16 --> eq(1)
Similarly whatever distance covered by train B in time t is covered by train A in 9 hours.
so y*t = x*4 --> eq(2).
From eq(1) and eq(2),
We get (x^2 / y^2) =( 16/4).
And the speed of train A and B as x and y.
So now whatever distance covered by train A in time t is covered by train B in 16 hours.
So x*t = y*16 --> eq(1)
Similarly whatever distance covered by train B in time t is covered by train A in 9 hours.
so y*t = x*4 --> eq(2).
From eq(1) and eq(2),
We get (x^2 / y^2) =( 16/4).
(5)
Sheth said:
6 years ago
Let say the distance between them is d, and it takes time t when both the trains meet each other.
So relative speed = v1+v2.
So t = d/ (v1+v2) -----> (1).
Now for the train 1 distance remains = d - t*v1.
For the train 2 distance remains = d-t*v2.
According to the question, it takes 9 hrs for the first train and 16 hrs for the second train.
So, 9 = (d-t*v1) /v1 and 16 = (d-t*v2) /v2.
Now from the equation 1, d = t*v1+t*v2 substitue above.
So 9 = t*v2/v1 and 16 = t*v1/v2.
Equating t, 9v1/v2 = 16v2/v1 so v1/v2 = 4/3.
So relative speed = v1+v2.
So t = d/ (v1+v2) -----> (1).
Now for the train 1 distance remains = d - t*v1.
For the train 2 distance remains = d-t*v2.
According to the question, it takes 9 hrs for the first train and 16 hrs for the second train.
So, 9 = (d-t*v1) /v1 and 16 = (d-t*v2) /v2.
Now from the equation 1, d = t*v1+t*v2 substitue above.
So 9 = t*v2/v1 and 16 = t*v1/v2.
Equating t, 9v1/v2 = 16v2/v1 so v1/v2 = 4/3.
(2)
Neeraj said:
6 years ago
The above explanations are not correct. For example,
2 trains at station A&B. It starts at the same time at 8 AM in the morning. Train A speed is 100km/hr&train B speed is 150km/hr. Then they will meet after 4 hrs. If the total distance is 1000km.
After meeting, B takes 9hrs (TOTAL 13hrs) to complete its journey and A takes 16hrs (TOTAL 20HRS) to complete its journey. So the speeds of both trains decreasing to 50 km/hr &76.92km/hr. So equations 2&3 are not correct.
2 trains at station A&B. It starts at the same time at 8 AM in the morning. Train A speed is 100km/hr&train B speed is 150km/hr. Then they will meet after 4 hrs. If the total distance is 1000km.
After meeting, B takes 9hrs (TOTAL 13hrs) to complete its journey and A takes 16hrs (TOTAL 20HRS) to complete its journey. So the speeds of both trains decreasing to 50 km/hr &76.92km/hr. So equations 2&3 are not correct.
Lavanya said:
6 years ago
Thanks for explaining @Pandu Ranga.
Lavanya said:
6 years ago
Thank you so much @Ishita Narula.
Pandu ranga said:
6 years ago
Divide distance into two parts based on the point where they meet.
Let first half of journey took x hrs which is same for both trains.
Total time for train 1 = 9+x.
Total time for train 2 = 16+ x.
Let the speed of the first train(took 9 hrs to complete the second half of its journey) be a
Speed of the second train( took 16 hrs to complete the second half of its journey) be b
The total distance between the cities is 9a+16b.
Now,
Speed = distance/ time.
a = 9a+16b/9+x.
b= 9a+16b/16+x.
eliminate x.
ax= 16 b,
bx = 9a.
16b/a =9a/b.
a/b = 4/3.
Let first half of journey took x hrs which is same for both trains.
Total time for train 1 = 9+x.
Total time for train 2 = 16+ x.
Let the speed of the first train(took 9 hrs to complete the second half of its journey) be a
Speed of the second train( took 16 hrs to complete the second half of its journey) be b
The total distance between the cities is 9a+16b.
Now,
Speed = distance/ time.
a = 9a+16b/9+x.
b= 9a+16b/16+x.
eliminate x.
ax= 16 b,
bx = 9a.
16b/a =9a/b.
a/b = 4/3.
(2)
Ahaji Victor said:
7 years ago
The correct answer is 4/3 because in the question both trains meets with each other before the now covered their remaining distance in 9hr and 16hrs respectively.
(1)
Ishu shrivastava said:
7 years ago
Solving the eqns..
D=(v1+v2)t ---------> 1
D=(t+9)v1---------> 2
D=(t+16)v2---------> 3.
Putting the value of t from eq 1 in eq 2 & 3 then taking all the term having D on one side and then taking ratio of eq.2 & 3.
And we will get v1/v2=√16/√9= 4/3.
D=(v1+v2)t ---------> 1
D=(t+9)v1---------> 2
D=(t+16)v2---------> 3.
Putting the value of t from eq 1 in eq 2 & 3 then taking all the term having D on one side and then taking ratio of eq.2 & 3.
And we will get v1/v2=√16/√9= 4/3.
(1)
Anil said:
7 years ago
Why are getting the square root. Can anyone explain to me?
(1)
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