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Discussion Forum : Permutation and Combination - General Questions (Q.No. 12)
12.
How many 4-letter words with or without meaning, can be formed out of the letters of the word, 'LOGARITHMS', if repetition of letters is not allowed?
Answer: Option
Explanation:
'LOGARITHMS' contains 10 different letters.
Required number of words | = Number of arrangements of 10 letters, taking 4 at a time. |
= 10P4 | |
= (10 x 9 x 8 x 7) | |
= 5040. |
Discussion:
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Chandu said:
10 years ago
What is the answer if repetition is allowed?
Arurag said:
9 years ago
The answer is correct. This is a permutation.
i.e npr=n!/(n-r)! Here n! is 10, r is 4.
i.e npr=n!/(n-r)! Here n! is 10, r is 4.
Rishi said:
9 years ago
Here first, we can use 10C4 to find no.of groups containing 4 words. Then by multiplying by !5 we will obtain no.of word arrangements in those groups. In question we have to find words.
Hyndavi said:
9 years ago
They mentioned that no repetition are allowed then how could we use permutations here?
PCB said:
9 years ago
Easier method.
Here, repetition is not allowed. So, to form a word of 4 letters. _ _ _ _.
The 1st letter can be chosen out of 10 letters.
The 2nd letter can be chosen out of the remaining 9 letters. (since no repetition & 1 letter is filled in the 1st position).
The 3rd letter can be chosen out of the remaining 8 letters.
The 4th letter can be chosen out of the remaining 7 letters.
Thus, 10 * 9 * 8 * 7 = 5040.
Here, repetition is not allowed. So, to form a word of 4 letters. _ _ _ _.
The 1st letter can be chosen out of 10 letters.
The 2nd letter can be chosen out of the remaining 9 letters. (since no repetition & 1 letter is filled in the 1st position).
The 3rd letter can be chosen out of the remaining 8 letters.
The 4th letter can be chosen out of the remaining 7 letters.
Thus, 10 * 9 * 8 * 7 = 5040.
AYYAJ said:
9 years ago
If repetition is allowed what is the answer?
Olamide said:
9 years ago
If repetition is allowed then it would be 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 = 10000.
Santhosh said:
9 years ago
I have a problem can anyone help me to solve this.
The no of the distinct permutations of the letters in the word"MISSISSIPPI" such that four I's do not come together.
The no of the distinct permutations of the letters in the word"MISSISSIPPI" such that four I's do not come together.
Vidya said:
9 years ago
I agree @Ankur.
It is first we are selecting 4 letter from 10 letters.
i.e. C (10, 4) = 210.
Then arranging 4 letter in different ways. i.e. 4!= 24.
Therefore, it is selecting and arranging (combination of permutation and combination) =210 * 24 = 5040.
It is first we are selecting 4 letter from 10 letters.
i.e. C (10, 4) = 210.
Then arranging 4 letter in different ways. i.e. 4!= 24.
Therefore, it is selecting and arranging (combination of permutation and combination) =210 * 24 = 5040.
Navya said:
8 years ago
Firstly we have to check if any alphabet is repeated in the word "LOGARITHMS".
No, alphabets is repeated so it can be treated as any other general case. We are using permutation because it is not just the selection of 4 alphabets from the given word but the rearrangement of these alphabets in order to form a word (given: The words may or may not have any meaning). Now there are 10 alphabets & we must find out the number of 4 lettered words that can be formed which can be done in 10p4 ways. We need not multiply with 4! because have already considered the rearrangements (i.e usage of the concept of permutations).
No, alphabets is repeated so it can be treated as any other general case. We are using permutation because it is not just the selection of 4 alphabets from the given word but the rearrangement of these alphabets in order to form a word (given: The words may or may not have any meaning). Now there are 10 alphabets & we must find out the number of 4 lettered words that can be formed which can be done in 10p4 ways. We need not multiply with 4! because have already considered the rearrangements (i.e usage of the concept of permutations).
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