# Logical Reasoning - Statement and Argument - Discussion

### Discussion :: Statement and Argument - Section 1 (Q.No.4)

Each question given below consists of a statement, followed by two arguments numbered I and II. You have to decide which of the arguments is a 'strong' argument and which is a 'weak' argument.

• (A) If only argument I is strong
• (B) If only argument II is strong
• (C) If either I or II is strong
• (D) If neither I nor II is strong and
• (E) If both I and II are strong.

4.

Statement: Should there be students union in college/university?

Arguments:

1. No. This will create a political atmosphere in the campus.
2. Yes, it is very necessary Students are future political leaders.

 [A]. Only argument I is strong [B]. Only argument II is strong [C]. Either I or II is strong [D]. Neither I nor II is strong [E]. Both I and II are strong

Explanation:

The students union formation shall be a step towards giving to students the basic education in the field of politics. However, it shall create the same political atmosphere in the campus. Thus, both the arguments hold strong.

 Avinash said: (Jul 16, 2012) Not all students will choose politics as their career alternative. So second statement ". Very necessary students are future political leaders. " does not seem strong. Please discuss.

 Anirudh said: (Aug 19, 2012) Yes Avinash, even i am of the same opinion....

 Anupd said: (Apr 12, 2013) I think both statements are not strong as the aim for student union is to help fight problems faced by students at college or university level and not to develop them into political leaders.

 Sagar said: (May 29, 2013) Yes. I agree that neither of the statement is strong. We cannot consider the political atmosphere that the formation of student union creates, as the purpose for forming it is totally different that is to address the various problems of college students. Also, it may be necessary but certainly not "VERY NECESSARY" as it is mentioned in the second statement.

 Arnab said: (Jul 9, 2013) It may happen that a student union is not associated to any political party so I is not strong and not all students want to be the next political leaders. So in my opinion neither of the statement is strong.

 Vik said: (Nov 2, 2013) As for me - neither argument is strong. Very often unions are made (and financed by the uni) to let the students solve some of their problems emerged in the course of education, so it is some sort of administrative university duties delegated to studs, which has little connection to politics (yep, the president of union is elected, but it is just a sort of funny game for a short period of time).

 Ralte said: (Nov 24, 2013) What the question wants to know is that having a student in college/ university is desirable or not? Argument 1 is not strong, since having Union would not DIRECTLY lead to creating political atmosphere. 2 Argument is also not strong enough. Vice versa. Moreover, base on the all comments. :D.

 Divyesh said: (Jan 2, 2014) First argument is weak as it is not necessary that it will create political atmosphere. 2nd one is weak too as it's talking about like whole students. And it's not necessary that everyone would want to go in politics. So in my opinion no one is strong.

 Ayaz Ali Phulpoto said: (Feb 24, 2014) Politics is a key of all crimes so it should not allow in education institutions. However, it should not allow even in Government Sectors as well.

 Ayaz Ali Phulpoto said: (Feb 24, 2014) Politics is a key of all crimes so it should not allow in educational institutions. However, it also should not allow in Government Sectors/divisions because it creates groups/divisions among students in Educational institutions and Government Sectors. So the argument no 1 is correct it is as that the politics creates political atmosphere over these institutions that can be danger or harmful.

 Ambih said: (May 10, 2014) Having a political environment at college isn't bad ? Why is this statement used to strengthen the option 'no'?

 Sumit said: (Aug 24, 2016) Students unions in the college are mainly for raising issues of students in front of management of colleges and universities. It is not for political leadership development of students. I think both statements not follow.

 Faraz Arif said: (Jan 4, 2017) I don't think Statement 1 follows, but I think Statement 2 does. Statement 1 is fairly vague and the creation of a political atmosphere (even if it does happen) does not necessarily have to be a bad thing (and it's been stated in a very negative sense here). Statement 2 is a general argument that is presented time and again as a universal truth. Students (if not all of them) are still the ones who shall form the political leadership for the future. Hence, I believe that only Statement 2 is a viable option.

 Vishal Singh said: (Jan 13, 2017) I have seen during my graduation. What type of environment is created between the college students. So, in my view option 1 is correct. Because it divides them into groups. Which harms their future also.

 Anshuman Sethy said: (Apr 11, 2017) @ALL. If anybody wants to be a politician there is no need of gain political experience in college. Politician means to serve the people by heart either in a state or country. PM Modi says think to do something rather than thinking of achieving something. If students gain political experience in colleges to do politics in future rather than thinking of serving the people. There is no need of such politicians. Thus arg 2 is not correct. Students unions are generally made to manage and reach student's problem or opinion to the college authority by the union leader. But now many of the universities do politics by group separation or division. So that disturbances happen in studies and college environment is fully disturbed. So I think argument 1 is fully correct.

 Siddharth Chandel said: (Sep 17, 2017) Argument 1: Only Mentions it will lead to form political environment, but doesn't link how? Certainly, there is a reasonable doubt. So Argument 1 doesn't follow. Argument 2: Provides an established fact, that the students are/will be future political leaders. But again it doesn't directly link to setting up of the student union. Both the arguments are WEAK. Actually, if the QUESTION / STATEMENT have been put up like - Should elections be held among students in college/university? Arguments 1 & 2 may had followed!

 Lucy said: (May 14, 2018) The answer provided for this question is a bit narrow. I think that students unions play a major role in helping solve problems faced by other students to make sure to build a vibrant student community.

 Ravi said: (Apr 1, 2019) So, what if the political environment is established in the campus, it has nothing to do with education. Hence, I think statement 1 is weak.

 Anandan said: (Jun 20, 2019) I think none of the statements is addressing the real reason of unionisation in a college. The purpose is to stand up for the problems faced by the students. The two options are valid but not strong.

 Arindam said: (Aug 20, 2020) Both arg 1 and arg 2 are both strong. But the problem exists in choosing the correct option, as basically in this sort of question the option is either 1 or 2, but here it is given both. In my opinion, both the argument have different direction respectively. Both are practically possible.

 Shree said: (Sep 27, 2020) Can anyone explain me the difference between "either I Or II is strong " And "both I and II are strong".

 Navdeep said: (Jan 23, 2021) I think either Or can be the answer as yes or no at same time is no possible. If one statement is true and at the same time another one is also true. Both are having yes and no types of arguments then the answer will be either 1 Or 2.